Surprise Hero?

[BAShocker]

Jake's tip in at the buzzer before halftime, that was awesome!

[forevershockerfan]

Baker, FVV, and White were all mentioned above and all answered the bell. Now look for Wiggy to be assigned a mission and will also answer the calling. When you have a roster from top to bottom can do the needed deed, our foes no not how to prepare properly for us.

[pogo]

It does give the other team fits to try and figure out who to key on. As you said Wiggins can come in and light it up and now that we have 4 guys that can hit from outside it just really is hard to scout a team like WSU.

[1979Shocker]

what a good predictor thread. Baker was the hero, VanVleet with the atomic bomb and even Jake White made a 3!

I just read a link posted on SN that said Marshall had just given White the green light to shoot 3's again.

[Shoxfan11]

I just read a link posted on SN that said Marshall had just given White the green light to shoot 3's again.

From the SI article:

The Shockers got contributions from up and down the roster, including a timely three by White, who was only recently given a "yellow" light by Marshall to take that shot.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/-co...#ixzz2OTrKuyBQ

Let's just say I'm glad he took that one. :)

[Shocker85]

It does give the other team fits to try and figure out who to key on. As you said Wiggins can come in and light it up and now that we have 4 guys that can hit from outside it just really is hard to scout a team like WSU.

If you count Wiggins, there's actually 5 who have hit multiple huge 3's in the last several games:
Malcolm
Ron
Cle
Tekele
+Wiggins

Not bad. Even Jake and Demetric are still modest threats

[garylee]

Guess I have to defend Jake yet again. All you have to do is look at his shot. He has good fundamentals. I am pretty sure he was recruited as a shooting SF. Yes, he lost is confidence in limited attempts and shooting is all about confidence. So did TC and he regained it. All good shooters do and I still think Jake IS a good shooter. Both JW and CE have been forced into PF duty but GM uses them both as spread four players who screen and pop out for perimeter shots.

[Steeleshocker]

Guess I have to defend Jake yet again. All you have to do is look at his shot. He has good fundamentals. I am pretty sure he was recruited as a shooting SF. Yes, he lost is confidence in limited attempts and shooting is all about confidence. So did TC and he regained it. All good shooters do and I still think Jake IS a good shooter. Both JW and CE have been forced into PF duty but GM uses them both as spread four players who screen and pop out for perimeter shots.

Ummmmm, everyone here is pretty fired up he hit that shot. Not sure you need to "defend" him. His play speaks for itself.

[SubGod22]

And he was recruited as a stretch 4. They never pictured him as a SF

[garylee]

And he was recruited as a stretch 4. They never pictured him as a SF

but the stretch four normally uses TWO SF's that can shoot from the perimeter. it uses two or three guards and a SF all around the perimeter. that's where the name comes from - stretch FOUR. its an offense that plays without a traditional PF and suits guys just like Cle cause he can shoot the three and stretch the D out from the paint.

[SubGod22]

Cle is a SF who plays as a stretch 4 because of our roster. White was NEVER recruited as a SF type. He's a PF who can shoot. There's a difference.

[The Mad Hatter]

but the stretch four normally uses TWO SF's that can shoot from the perimeter. it uses two or three guards and a SF all around the perimeter. that's where the name comes from - stretch FOUR. its an offense that plays without a traditional PF and suits guys just like Cle cause he can shoot the three and stretch the D out from the paint.

No that is not where the name comes from. 4 refers to the position of power forward and a stretch 4 is a pf who can face up and shoot the three.

[garylee]

exactly...... but the PF is REPLACED by a SF who is a perimeter threat. STRETCH four means four on the perimeter which stretches the defense out away from the basket using FOUR perimeter shooting threats. how can you name it after a position that is eliminated?

[Dan]

that's not right garylee. A stretch 4 is a big forward with the ability to play the perimeter, ala Kyle Wilson, etc. It is not simpy inserting a 3 man at the 4 position.

[garylee]

I think we are splitting hairs here. The offense was devised for teams that LACKED a true PF and couldn't play BIG in the paint. In order to level the playing field an advantage was sought on the perimeter by inserting two shooting SF's. That forces the team with a traditional big PF to make an adjustment to be able to guard FOUR perimeter shooters. It also opens up driving lanes for guys like MA. You are right only in the sense that the SF subbing for the PF does have the ability to play the perimeter but it normally IS NOT a traditional PF type. MOST PF's are not good shooters. Its for teams that just can't match up with another team that has a beast at PF. We have a problem doing that when EO or CJ are not in the game.