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  • Originally posted by wu_shizzle View Post
    Trust me more often than not, you want one guy to go off.

    It always seemed like when MJ would have a huge game the Bulls would lose, same with Kobe. I'll take defending Ryan and Dougie over a balanced offense anytime.
    And most of the time, I'd agree with you. But not when you're allowing soft lobs and wide open threes to other players NOT named Doug McDermott.

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    • Though today is bitter, its kind of interesting that we're all p'ed and moaning (me too!) about a 24-7 record, battling for the conference title on the last day, and though still with a bit of work to do, squarely in the NCAA picture.

      It wasn't that many years ago that seasons of 24+ wins would have been heady heights making us quite happy. Now we've had four years of this level, and we're hungry for more and not satisfied with just pretty good. This is a good thing, the way baseball used to be, and I hope the team can dig down and find the MTXE needed for STL. I'm proud that this team over this season has probably over-achieved, but it is NOT time to be done. Not yet.

      GO SHOCKS!
      Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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      • I wish the NCAA would lower the shot clock to 30 seconds like the women's. It would give us more possessions, and with our defense, that could produce havoc for the other team and also speed up the game.

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        • I said yesterday that I thought Creighton would win because they needed it more and wanted it more.
          WSU holds Creighton to 70% shooting from the field, enough said.

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          • Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
            I wish the NCAA would lower the shot clock to 30 seconds like the women's. It would give us more possessions, and with our defense, that could produce havoc for the other team and also speed up the game.
            What defense? I didn't see any defense today.

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            • Originally posted by ShockBand View Post
              Though today is bitter, its kind of interesting that we're all p'ed and moaning (me too!) about a 24-7 record, battling for the conference title on the last day, and though still with a bit of work to do, squarely in the NCAA picture.

              It wasn't that many years ago that seasons of 24+ wins would have been heady heights making us quite happy. Now we've had four years of this level, and we're hungry for more and not satisfied with just pretty good. This is a good thing, the way baseball used to be, and I hope the team can dig down and find the MTXE needed for STL. I'm proud that this team over this season has probably over-achieved, but it is NOT time to be done. Not yet.

              GO SHOCKS!
              That's a good reminder. Want to be hungry but not spoiled. I'm happy overall still. Can't complain about where this program is.

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              • Originally posted by ShockBand View Post
                Though today is bitter, its kind of interesting that we're all p'ed and moaning (me too!) about a 24-7 record, battling for the conference title on the last day, and though still with a bit of work to do, squarely in the NCAA picture.

                It wasn't that many years ago that seasons of 24+ wins would have been heady heights making us quite happy. Now we've had four years of this level, and we're hungry for more and not satisfied with just pretty good. This is a good thing, the way baseball used to be, and I hope the team can dig down and find the MTXE needed for STL. I'm proud that this team over this season has probably over-achieved, but it is NOT time to be done. Not yet.

                GO SHOCKS!
                I'm more annoyed at the way we dropped the ball this week than anything else. A loss to Creighton is fine; the worst FG% defense in Shocker history on a game that decided a regular season title is not so fine. 24-7 and 2nd is a a bitter pill to swallow when 25-6 and 1st was there for the taking.

                On our biggest game of the year (so far), and we played the worst defense of any Shocker team in history. Think about that. That is disappointing regardless of the implications. We are still an NCAA quality team, but we need to start playing like it and quickly.

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                • Originally posted by jdmee View Post
                  What defense? I didn't see any defense today.
                  none.

                  'wichita state too physically weak (relatively speaking) to bump creighton off of their shooting spots (if they could get there), just like i said after the evansville game. phsyically weak with the ball at times, too. like, impotent.

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                  • the way i see it if we can't win two at stl we don't deserve to dance and if we do we should.
                    personally, i am hoping for a rubber game with CU

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                    • I'm too lazy to read much of this thread.

                      I thought we played well. I thought Creighton played utterly amazing. We let them have some open shots, but for the most part, I thought we defended very well and very aggressively. They just couldn't miss, and you just have to tip your hat and move on.

                      I have a lot more respect for Creighton today than I thought I'd ever have, with how McDermott responded to the pressure and with how their team responded to what seemed to be a very physical game. Considering the reason I've never been very impressed with Creighton was because of defensive weakness, McDermott's disappearing act in big games, and their lack of physicality ... I'd say they changed all three of those today in a big way.
                      Originally posted by BleacherReport
                      Fred VanVleet on Shockers' 3-Pt Shooting Confidence -- ' Honestly, I just tell these guys to let their nuts hang.'

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                      • Originally posted by garylee View Post
                        the way i see it if we can't win two at stl we don't deserve to dance and if we do we should.
                        personally, i am hoping for a rubber game with CU
                        pretty cut and dry. too bad they stepped on their dicks last wednesday, god bless 'em.

                        if the shockers win their first tourney game, what are the chances that ilsu, if they win their first tourney game, have a career shooting % night vs wichita state?

                        back to friday, 8/8/2013. 'shockers better drop their cocks and grab their socks. ie play some team basketball

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                        • Originally posted by Dan View Post
                          ok so their best player has a career game, Colty Ryan lights us up the game before. We know these are the 2 best offensive players in the conference, yet we let them have career games. Where the hell is our defensive strategy. Who's drawing up these game plans?
                          6 of 8 creighton players that took shots tonight went better then 50% from the field.


                          No one in the nation is going to win against creighton when they shoot 70%. I don't care who you are. It wont happen. Doesn't matter if dougies scores 2 points and fouls out, if creighton as a team shoots 70% they win

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                          • Originally posted by rialaigh View Post
                            6 of 8 creighton players that took shots tonight went better then 50% from the field.


                            No one in the nation is going to win against creighton when they shoot 70%. I don't care who you are. It wont happen. Doesn't matter if dougies scores 2 points and fouls out, if creighton as a team shoots 70% they win
                            no one in the nation is going to win against, say, bradley or uni either if they shoot 70%. or didn't evansville shoot nearly 70% in the first half vs wsu in that abortion of a game last wednesday? pretty similar.

                            so shooting 70% vs wsu shouldn't give us pause? meh, creighton was just hot.. evansville too.. nothing to worry about.

                            oh, well.. who cares, right? i picked wsu to finish second in the mvc anyway. so.. whatever.

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                            • Look on the bright side...

                              This is the first time in 12 years that Creighton has won a regular season title....

                              How many have we had in that time frame? 3/4?

                              This totally means we're winning in the Lou.

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                              • Originally posted by Awesome Sauce Malone View Post
                                Look on the bright side...

                                This is the first time in 12 years that Creighton has won a regular season title....
                                I suggest a fact checker.

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