A message from Bill Self

[ABC]

What was the other time Katz mentioned it?

[rrshock]

They tried six years ago and it didn't.

I remember. Maybe they can up the ante a little this time.

[XManCometh]

I remember. Maybe they can up the ante a little this time.

They could offer KU $12 million for one game at Allen and I doubt KU would do it. KU won't agree to a Sprint Center or Intrust or Koch game against WSU. Too many WSU fans will show up. It's at the Fieldhouse or nothing.

[TheYeti]

Someday their paths will cross in the dance. When that day comes, I'm confident our players will be ready, and give us, the fans, one up on the most arrogant, delusional, self-entitled, puffed up bunch of jackasses on the planet - the KU fans.

[XManCometh]

Someday their paths will cross in the dance. When that day comes, I'm confident our players will be ready, and give us, the fans, one up on the most arrogant, delusional, self-entitled, puffed up bunch of jackasses on the planet - the KU fans.

I just hope that if WSU loses our fans don't pull a "KSU fan" and say, "Well at least it was close" or "They're KU, they beat us. That's what happens". I had KSU fans tell me that the next day after the KSU/KU game. I then realized why their school is awful at sports. They expect to lose.

I want our fans to EXPECT to beat KU if/when we play, not just hope it happens then sulk if we lose a tough game. I'd assume that'd be the case though. So I'm not worried.

[I_Vector_Wu]

A) Who is this Bill Self you folks speak of? Is he famous? An actor maybe?
B) The question isn't why will K-who not play us, but why do we need to play them. I don't need their little pat on the head for approval.
C) I had the good fortune whilst attending WSU to take a little road trip down to New Orleans in 1981 I believe, for something called an NCAA Regional. What I witnessed there will forever put a smile on my face that will last me til the day I die. Darnell Valentine choking on the layup, Mike Jones bombs away, hanging crap on Jayhawk types on Rue Bourbon. 66-65, I think some of their ilk still bristle over that one.

Over And Out

Fixed, Thanks 79, twas a long time ago

[ShockerFever]

What was the other time Katz mentioned it?

Take a look at one of Katz's chats from a week ago.

[1979Shocker]

A) Who is this Bill Self you folks speak of? Is he famous? An actor maybe?
B) The question isn't why will K-who not play us, but why do we need to play them. I don't need their little pat on the head for approval.
C) I had the good fortune whilst attending WSU to take a little road trip down to New Orleans in 1981 I believe, for something called an NCAA Regional. What I witnessed there will forever put a smile on my face that will last me til the day I die. Darnell Valentine choking on the layup, Mike Jones bombs away, hanging crap on Jayhawk types on Rue Bourbon. 65-64, I think some of their ilk still bristle over that one.

Over And Out

66-65 was the score.

[another shocker]

but wait, aren't we supposed to like bill self here on this board? (and hinson, also? man, that team, siu, played so rogueish vs wichita state. 'hated to see that- uni and koch probably hated to see it too)

[ABC]

I have liked Bill Self but that is changing a bit with his weak-arst responses to that question.

[TheYeti]

I have liked Bill Self but that is changing a bit with his weak-arst responses to that question.

I would agree. This thread was titled "A message from Bill Self." How about this, "A message TO Bill Self: Congratulations on the continued success of your baskeball program. Their achievements are admirable, but know this, if you set foot on the Koch Arena floor, prepare to have your arse handed to you!"

[Veritas]

Asked by ESPN's Andy Katz:

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/blog/_/name/katz_andy/id/8892786/bill-self-discusses-kansas-jayhawks-winning-tradition-college-basketball

Why doesn't Kansas play Wichita State?
"Kansas hasn't played Wichita State for years, way before I was the coach at Kansas. … Iowa plays Northern Iowa because the state legislature says you have to. If someone were to come and say something that it's law, then we would have to. But you schedule to benefit your own school, not to benefit others. You have to benefit your own school. I want to play games that benefit us, and, from a financial standpoint, it's hard to play games away from Allen Fieldhouse since that's our main source of budget every year.''

... if financial issues are the only hinderances at hand as to why KU wont play WSU, why then, doesn't Marshall's idea a three game series, playing at Sprint, Intrust and in Lawrence get any traction?

I think he sent a couple of messages:
1. He won't schedule an away game at Koch
2. He'll only schedule an away game that
a) Financially helps KU
b) garners high national TV ratings
c) in an area KU needs to recruit or is at a disadvantage in recruiting
*** none of these except for perhaps "b" currently fit WSU v KU (though I believe a game at Intrust could include premium tkt prices that would offset $$ concerns.
3. Will entertain a WSU game at AFH (home game and doesn't hurt financially)
4. Not opposed to the state mandating games between WSU v KU & KSU
a) takes the pressure away from the JoCo crowd stomping their feet at Bill Self for potentially losing to a WSU team
b) can always point fingers to a 3rd party for mandating the game

Sooner or later the two biggest dogs in the state are bound to go nose-to-nose. My thinking is that it could happen this year in the NCAA tournament, which IMO puts the pressure on the Jayhawks. Additionally, as long as Gregg continues to coach WSU and is ranked, more and more national media will be pushing a regular season match up. Until then, WSU just needs to do what they do~ WIN and not worry about KU until they meet in the tournament.

This game is going to happen~ sooner rather than later.

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

Then screw it... Go play at the Phag and beat em there.

[bleed yellow]

Everything about KU that's related to Sedgwick County remains shrouded in mystery. They still haven't played a game in Intrust Arena (too scared of the backlash from local everything because they sure as hell won't play the Shockers at Intrust). Still show no interest in scheduling WSU in basketball (espn is starting to have fun with this one now). It seems like anything basketball related- they do you their best to ignore Wichita- As far as making sure they have a KU med in Wichita and scheduling the Shockers in Baseball, they are fine with those two.

[tropicalshox]

Then screw it... Go play at the Phag and beat em there.

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