Bluejays @ Shockers Game Thread

[Anthroshock]

Just if no one Has it yet

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...-12-creighton/

"Missed buzzer beater gives WSU victory"???

A missed buzzer beater to put it into overtime?
A victory on a buzzer beater where Creighton led a grand total of 12 seconds in the entire game?

[mjbaker84]

Oh yeah by the way Jenn Bates looks great in red.

picture of said in red?

[WuDrWu]

Come Early.
Be LOUD.
Stay late.
Wear BLACK.
Beat Creighton.



GO SHOCKS!

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[shocker1]

RUN MVC

[SHOXAAC]

Just curious, does anyone know what the best start record-wise prior to recording a third loss is?

[moshock]

picture of said in red?

She is in the background on the left side behind the commentators.

[GOSHOX1]

Anyone else notice echineque not shake hands and just walk straight off the court? Thought it was pretty bush league, even if he was hurt. Poor baby!!

[another shocker]

Anyone else notice echineque not shake hands and just walk straight off the court? Thought it was pretty bush league, even if he was hurt. Poor baby!!

-> he's still pissed off that jt durley and gabe blair toyed with him like a cat and a mouse. <-

[Kung Wu]

I think everyone here is drawing the wrong conclusions about Gibbs.

So much of his game is an intentional schtick, geared towards getting other coaches/players to act in a certain way regarding him. It's if he says, nothing to see here, move along. Why? Because it allows him to do all the things that we need him to do, without him being harrassed.

One thing no one has even covered yet is how valuable he is in getting the ball to Doug. Someone said in an earlier thread that Early disappeared for parts of the game, then someone else said that no, he was sealing his man down low but Armstead never got him the ball. Well, Grant and Doug work together so well that the moment Doug seals his guy, Gibbs has the ball in his mitts. He's outstanding at that. Someone on our board did a breakdown of the efficiency of each of our 5 man lineups; Doug's efficiency was far, far better with Gibbs out there than when it was just Chatman. That's why you rarely see Wragge come in for Gibbs, it's almost always Dingman, since Dingman is a better passer. It's no coincidence that Gibbs is third in the nation in assist/TO ratio; losing him would be a huge problem.

The other thing is, that slow stroll he takes down the lane isn't him being that slow, it's him intentionally doing it. Normally he gets Doug on one block and Greg on the other, and then goes slowly down the lane as if to say, HEY, I'M GOING TO THE HOLE, COME OFF OF DOUG OR GREG AND COVER ME. It's like a running back going 2/3 speed on a sweep, in order to let his blockers get out there and the play to develop before he decides which route to take. What happens is the guy guarding Gibbs sags off on McDermott's side, neither guy comes off of their post defense, and Gibbs jogs to the rim and scores. Heck, yesterday it happened right in front of Carl Hall - Hall was leaning against McDermott as if he was trying to seal him off on offense, and Gibbs ran right at Hall, who never budged, and put it up uncontested for a layup.

Comments like Cold's are exactly what Gibbs wants. Slow, can't do jack, nothing to see here.

Well that's one way to spin it.

The other way is what the rest of the country sees: A slow guy that knows he will get a ton of assists and low turnovers if he doesn't dribble too much and if he repetitively passes the ball to one of the highest scoring shooters in the game. He's (smartly) cashing in that meal ticket with every chance he can. And why shouldn't he?

[mjbaker84]

She is in the background on the left side behind the commentators.

of?
the reply?

[moshock]

of?
the reply?

Watch the ESPN3 replay - you can see her pretty much anytime they are filming the ESPN commentators. Towards the end of the game there is a lengthy commentary by the announcers and I didn't hear a word they were saying.

[wsushox1]

http://espn.go.com/ncb/notebook/_/page/notebookweeklywatch130120/pick-n-roll

Carl Hall (Wichita State): The forward returned last week after missing seven games due to a thumb injury. He was cautious in his first game (two points, 0-for-2 from the field, 10 rebounds), a 74-62 win over Illinois State on Wednesday. He was a star, however, during the Shockers' 67-64 victory over No. 12 Creighton, finishing with 17 points and 13 rebounds.

Also a bit on the Missouri Valley conference.

[TheYeti]

I think everyone here is drawing the wrong conclusions about Gibbs.

So much of his game is an intentional schtick, geared towards getting other coaches/players to act in a certain way regarding him. It's if he says, nothing to see here, move along. Why? Because it allows him to do all the things that we need him to do, without him being harrassed.

One thing no one has even covered yet is how valuable he is in getting the ball to Doug. Someone said in an earlier thread that Early disappeared for parts of the game, then someone else said that no, he was sealing his man down low but Armstead never got him the ball. Well, Grant and Doug work together so well that the moment Doug seals his guy, Gibbs has the ball in his mitts. He's outstanding at that. Someone on our board did a breakdown of the efficiency of each of our 5 man lineups; Doug's efficiency was far, far better with Gibbs out there than when it was just Chatman. That's why you rarely see Wragge come in for Gibbs, it's almost always Dingman, since Dingman is a better passer. It's no coincidence that Gibbs is third in the nation in assist/TO ratio; losing him would be a huge problem.

The other thing is, that slow stroll he takes down the lane isn't him being that slow, it's him intentionally doing it. Normally he gets Doug on one block and Greg on the other, and then goes slowly down the lane as if to say, HEY, I'M GOING TO THE HOLE, COME OFF OF DOUG OR GREG AND COVER ME. It's like a running back going 2/3 speed on a sweep, in order to let his blockers get out there and the play to develop before he decides which route to take. What happens is the guy guarding Gibbs sags off on McDermott's side, neither guy comes off of their post defense, and Gibbs jogs to the rim and scores. Heck, yesterday it happened right in front of Carl Hall - Hall was leaning against McDermott as if he was trying to seal him off on offense, and Gibbs ran right at Hall, who never budged, and put it up uncontested for a layup.

Comments like Cold's are exactly what Gibbs wants. Slow, can't do jack, nothing to see here.

After watching Saturdays game, I totally agree. Gibbs is absolutely the most intelligent player, as far as basketball IQ and how it applies to HIS team, that we will see.

[proshox]

After watching Saturdays game, I totally agree. Gibbs is absolutely the most intelligent player, as far as basketball IQ and how it applies to HIS team, that we will see.

It would be an absolute blast to play pick-up basketball with a guy like Gibbs. He just makes you better.

Awesome game... I love this Shocker team.

Great job by the students. It looks like the camp-out worked, they were able to secure and dominate the closer rows.

[mjbaker84]

caught her barely in the corner of the screen lol