Why we do NOT have a decent defense, yet:

[Trueshock]

We made too many foolish fouls. Nevertheless, the Shockers are good. Did they just get lucky and win 9 straight? Of course not. All is not lost when you lose one game.

[ShockerFever]

We made too many foolish fouls. Nevertheless, the Shockers are good. Did they just get lucky and win 9 straight? Of course not. All is not lost when you lose one game.

Too much common sense for this horses**t of a thread.

[Trueshock]

CCB is no fan of the Shockers

It seems that you have a problem with about everything that the Shockers do regardless of their record. CCB probably stands for Creighton College Basketball. You're so frustrated dude. You probably can't get laid. Maybe you should hook up with up with Mc Spermott.

[WstateU]

The Mexican Maid

The Mexican maid asked for a pay increase.

The wife was very upset about this, and decided to talk to her about the raise.She asked: "Now Maria, why do you want a pay increase?"

Maria: "Well, Señora, there are tree reasons why I wanna increaze."

"The first is that I iron better than you."

Wife: "Who said you iron better than me?"Maria: "Jor huzban he say so."

Wife: "Oh yeah?"


Maria: "The second reason eez that I am a better cook than you."

Wife: "Nonsense, who said you were a better cook than me?"

Maria: "Jor hozban did."

Wife, increasingly agitated: "Oh he did, did he?"

Maria: "The third reason is that I am better at sex than you in the bed."

Wife, really boiling now and through gritted teeth.

Wife: "And did my husband say that as well?"

Maria: "No Señora...."The gardener did."

Wife: "So, how much do you want?"

[CBB_Fan]

It seems that you have a problem with about everything that the Shockers do regardless of their record. CCB probably stands for Creighton College Basketball. You're so frustrated dude. You probably can't get laid. Maybe you should hook up with up with Mc Spermott.

I don't know why I continue trying to prove my points, because people seem content to make-up my arguments for me.

1. I have NOT said we are not a good team
2. I have NOT said that 9-1 is not a good record
3. I have NOT said we don't have quality wins

If you think I am arguing those things, the problem is you, not me. What I have argued is that:

1. Statistically, our defense is dominant when we don't foul and closer to average when we foul
2. We cannot control how well our opponents shoot from the line, but we can control how often they shoot
3. If we stop fouling, we are a better team

If you have objections to any argument I have actually made, that is perfectly all right. But if you want to make up arguments and attack me with your strawmen, you need to take a look at what I've actually said before attacking me.

[moshock]

I don't know why I continue trying to prove my points, because people seem content to make-up my arguments for me.

1. I have NOT said we are not a good team
2. I have NOT said that 9-1 is not a good record
3. I have NOT said we don't have quality wins

Unless there is another CBB on MVC Fans....you pretty much said all of those things you claim to have not said.

I haven't seen Wichita State outplay a quality opponent yet.

What you saw in that game what not Wichita State's offense on a bad night. It was Wichita State's offense eve[ry night.

We aren't a top 25 team, so stop saying that.

I apologize to my fellow Shocker Netter's for feeding the troll

[CBB_Fan]

Unless there is another CBB on MVC Fans....you pretty much said all of those things you claim to have not said.

I apologize to my fellow Shocker Netter's for feeding the troll

It is true that we haven't outplayed a quality opponent. However, with Iowa's improved play you can make an argument that they are a quality team, and we outplayed them. The other games have been 50/50, ie we haven't outplayed them.

The second statement is also accurate. We did not, and do not, have an incredibly efficient offense, especially from the perimeter. We can make up for it with our defense

The third statement was a statement of fact. Another poster stated that we were a 9-1 team in the Top 25. We were not; I expected us to drop about 10 spots in the polls and that is basically what happened.

[1972Shocker]

The Mexican Maid

Is that what the term "top shelf" means?

[Dan]

CBB what you are missing is that the aggressive defense we have is part of the plan. We have offensive limits right now and we have to make up for it by playing extra physical on defense. Does this result in some dumb fouls? yes, and it also results in a lot of fouls. We're making people beat us at the line rather than give up easy buckets. So far it's worked pretty well. Hopefully we can find some offense at some point and play a smoother brand of ball, until then, expect an "SIU-style" slugfest.

[newshock1234]

Was that good enough defense for you?

[CBB_Fan]

Was that good enough defense for you?

Yes, actually. We have done a good job on this front.

[ShockerFever]

Did we luck out again with our defensive free throw percentage output?

[CBB_Fan]

Did we luck out again with our defensive free throw percentage output?

Luck out, no. We improved.

[forevershockerfan]

Considering us replacing 5 solid Seniors, our injuries which are plentiful, and our 11-1 record, let me make some observations. Our interior D. was looking the toughest at times before Mr. Hall went out. Our quality depth before the injuries was wearing teams down and assisting us to some wins. Actually, last night when our guards got active in the 2nd half defensively, it really made a nice difference for us. We are not shooting the rock so great right now but it really gives us a lift when our D. gets it going to offset some of that. Also, last night, our rebounding was awesome, beating a solid rebounding S. Miss team by around 18? Wow!!! Our D. will be the difference as our injured players get back on the hardwood. I can't think of a Valley team that has a group of guards that can defend like ours. I can't think of a Valley team that could win like us with their star player out along with 2 other key starters and key reserves. I can't think of another Valley team that could play 8 players and have 2 of them that have not played as much as the other 10, that could come in and give such a boost off the bench as Chadrack and Wiggins.

Even so, once Valley play begins, every team will know to play zones, and will want to beat us so bad that they can taste it. The last few Season's, we were incredible on the road and broke Shocker records with very healthy, experienced, and talented upper classmen. Now we will see what we can do for an encore with this group along with the obstacles we have been facing in the injury department.

[Kung Wu]

Luck out, no. We improved.

Maybe there was never a problem in the first place, and your sample size was too small?