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  • Well s##t. Did not watch the game last night. Too many errands last evening and just thought I'd catch it later that night. Climbed in bed and started the game about 10:30. Watched literally maybe 2 minutes of it and said to myself..."I ain't gonna watch this sh#t." The thought process started after the jump ball and Cortez just dribbled without a single pass ultimately taking a shot of his own and missed. Literally thought..."yep...we're gonna struggle tonight...might even lose this one". Took a quick pee and noticed Cortez was still in the game when I came back in the room (what???). How was he not pulled immediately by the coach. Wow. Turned off the game and went to sleep. Can't say I was surprised to read ShockerNet this morning that we lost. Are you f'n kidding me...
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    • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post
      Bell is gonna get up 30 shots tonight and make 1/3 of them.
      Just for the record............Bell took 15 shots, made 9 for 60%. The rest of the team was 15 of 47 and shot 32%.

      We had another 4 guys that shot well, 11-21. The other four were 4-26 for .154.

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      • Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post

        Just for the record............Bell took 15 shots,
        It may have worked for him in this game, but you know Bell taking 15 shots is not a winning strategy.
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        • Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post

          It may have worked for him in this game, but you know Bell taking 15 shots is not a winning strategy.
          Maybe not. But can you imagine how bad it would have been if he were 0-0.

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          • The more I watch college basketball the more I see the best coaches are ones that can make adjustments during the game. Whether it’s how the game is officiated, how the opponents are running their offense, how well the team is shooting from the perimeter, great coaches make adjustments. I always thought Chris Jans was responsible for timely adjustments in the Marshall era. It was evident when he left, these adjustments weren’t as timely.

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            • This is what drives me up the wall. This should be the STANDARD for effort.
              Brummett throws, STRUCK HIM OUT! THE SHOCKERS ARE NATIONAL CHAMPIONS! AN UNBELIEVABLE STORY!

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              • Originally posted by Onegreatracer View Post
                https://x.com/tayloreldridge/status/...707886911?s=46

                This is what drives me up the wall. This should be the STANDARD for effort.

                When this happened I was thinking WTF did I just see? This from a guy who sleep walks through 90% of his minutes and refuses to get his hands above his head on defense and has no clue how to close out on a shooter?

                To me it was a 6 second clip that shows what a raw talent Q is but he has no motivation to be a stand out. Acy must of ate his ass out at the previous TO.
                BTW, I am in that clip and probably about the only one who didn’t jump out of their seat.

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                • Originally posted by Onegreatracer View Post
                  https://x.com/tayloreldridge/status/...707886911?s=46

                  This is what drives me up the wall. This should be the STANDARD for effort.
                  I know we've talked about Bell's effort. But watch how much he stands and watches after shooting the free throw, then after going to the corner. Just watches the action from a spot on the floor where he will have ZERO impact.

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                  • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post

                    I know we've talked about Bell's effort. But watch how much he stands and watches after shooting the free throw, then after going to the corner. Just watches the action from a spot on the floor where he will have ZERO impact.
                    That’s JUCO Ball 101.
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                    • Maybe that's the result of not practicing effort but instead studying metrics

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                      • Originally posted by Dan View Post
                        Maybe that's the result of not practicing effort but instead studying metrics
                        I do think the metrics show that you're far less likely to foul or commit a turnover if you stand in the corner and watch.


                        And I want to be clear. I'm not dragging Bell for his overall effort. But that's a clear example of a player who didn't have his head in the game in that span of time.

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