Florida #18 (7-0) vs Wichita State (6-0) Game Discussion: Nov 29 (Fri)

[JVShocker]

There's nothing left to say that hasn't been said. Spill your guts out on SN, get it out of your system and get ready for the next one. Because that was a big boy beat down. We did the same to Memphis last year, and it nearly broke them. Man up and we got the next one. Go Shocks.

[shoxlax]

Pretty much says in all in less than one paragraph.

The difference in athletes and overall team strength was hard to watch or endure.

Glad that HCPM realized it was burnt toast and sent Pipkin out there for extended minutes.

Not quite sure what they see in Yanis. He looks very D2 level at best. Maybe he is a good practice player?

Go home, watch some video, regroup for the Braves from Alcorn State on Wednesday.

Schedule from here until K-State is not very imposing.

Hopefully some guys who may have thought they were really good got a good dose of humble pie today.
Cuz I haven't seen that bad of a beating since November 5!

That is all.

Stunned when YB came back.

[BostonWu]

I woke up and had a dangerous feeling.

I feel more apathetic than ever. Seriously. I know we’re 6-1, I know we’re better than last year, but I simply have no interest in watching small time ball. And that was never more evident than last night.

I don’t think I’ll be staying up for the next game. There really aren’t words enough to describe how disappointed I am with Mills, and maybe more importantly, tired of this program dying a slow death. Wonder what it would take for the money guys to even step back in and save it. Money shouldn’t be a problem. Not in freaking Wichita.

As far as the money being there I'm beginning to wonder if just about all the big time donors were included in that full page ad. The reality is they may never return again. In which case, no the money isn't there.

[asiseeit]

We went to the Sweet 16 with Evan Wessel as our 4. We had Ben Smith at the 4 one year. Size at the 4 is not the problem. It’s defensive skill and desire to play defense, guard, box out, attack the ball, chase loose balls, have active hands, etc.

I loved both those guys but those were different times. They are growing them bigger and STRONGER now. I agree with most of your posts Dan but PF is our biggest problem area especially with such a weak rebounding center. I agree with your point about "desire" but these days you better have some size, length and strength to play with the likes of Florida. Have you seen Auburn? Those are big strong MEN. EW or BS would not have made much difference yesterday especially with our style offensively. Our style may have to be reexamined or at least put under better control.

[forevershockerfan]

Also, the QB/MB on the floor at the same time thing is not going to work. That was such a “we have to play your way and completely abandon our game” move and it came at such an early stage.

When Washington is subbed out, I'm predicting PM will indeed try the QB -MB combo more until DeGray returns.. We need shot makers. QB leads the team in FG% at .741 followed by MB at .586. QB has 2 T.O. but only 1 assist. MB has 8 T.O. and tied for 4th on this team with 8 assists.. MB is shooting .833 on throws.

Of all the Shocker games I have watched for my long life, I have never seen a defense dominate our Shockers as last night. Not sure if QB even shot the ball once in the first half. No matter who's fault that is, it is PM responsibility to get it corrected. We looked like strictly a group of one on one players with no offensive schemes to utilize. With the games moving forward, no team is a guaranteed win. We might still get maybe 20 wins and maybe a NIT bid? Time will tell. I'm sticking with my predicted 5th place finish in the AAC even though our Conference seems down this Season.

Zion gave us an energy spark last night that we need every single game from here on. Yes, it was mop up time but we didn't look so lethargic as we had looked. While he is on a strict learning curve,, his hustle is a shot in the arm.

How will the Shocks react from here on this roller coaster ride? Stay tuned.

[Singeril]

As far as the money being there I'm beginning to wonder if just about all the big time donors were included in that full page ad. The reality is they may never return again. In which case, no the money isn't there.

There are donors who are not happy with college athletics at this time. They aren’t happy with anything’s that has happened over the last 6 years. And they aren’t happy with the direction the university has gone over the past few years. I think some of that major donor money is gone for good.

[Atxshoxfan]

There are donors who are not happy with college athletics at this time. They aren’t happy with anything’s that has happened over the last 6 years. And they aren’t happy with the direction the university has gone over the past few years. I think some of that major donor money is gone for good.

I'm not happy with changes made in the last 40-50years.
1st adding a 30 second shot clock. Which I believe they instituted because of Jim Valvanos strategy against WSU in the tournament. Then they reduced it to 20 to increase scoring, which it actually reduced scoring. Then the 3 point shot, which encourages a game of horse. Then NIL and transfer portal, which removed devotion and identity of teams. And now they allow charges and either make them no calls or defensive fouls. Now a bully ball game.
Those are a few of the reasons that college hoops has gotten away from teams moving the ball until they get a good shot. It is now more like a pickup game at the Y.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Your responding to cold, who has to insult someone's intelligence on 95% of his posts. It's just his method of feeling better about himself.

[ShockHat]

There are donors who are not happy with college athletics at this time. They aren’t happy with anything’s that has happened over the last 6 years. And they aren’t happy with the direction the university has gone over the past few years. I think some of that major donor money is gone for good.

What a sad truth that would be :(

[Kung Wu]

Need to get rid of the mindset that, "I'm sure this will work." Or "I'm convinced this will work, keep doing it."

That sums up my posting history.

[SubGod22]

Sounds like I'm lucky we did Thanksgiving as a family yesterday and watched the Chiefs game and that I'm unable to watch the replay on ESPN+

[Aargh]

As far as the money being there I'm beginning to wonder if just about all the big time donors were included in that full page ad. The reality is they may never return again. In which case, no the money isn't there.

You're probably right and definitely right in the near future. The big money guys loved Marshall and he was their buddy. They're likely to still be buddies and probably are playing golf together. The deal Boatright cut with Golden killed the goose that laid the golden eggs.

WSU lost Marshall (and $7 mill went out the door with him), hired Brown, got hit with a pandemic, NIL opened up pay-to-play, and the transfer portal all combined to deal a crushing blow to the athletic department. Recovery isn't and won't be easy.

[pinstripers]

Sounds like I'm lucky we did Thanksgiving as a family yesterday and watched the Chiefs game and that I'm unable to watch the replay on ESPN+

You are. 27-0 run, I assume the worst in our history.

[WstateU]

Pretty much says in all in less than one paragraph.

The difference in athletes and overall team strength was hard to watch or endure.

Glad that HCPM realized it was burnt toast and sent Pipkin out there for extended minutes.

Not quite sure what they see in Yanis. He looks very D2 level at best. Maybe he is a good practice player?

Go home, watch some video, regroup for the Braves from Alcorn State on Wednesday.

Schedule from here until K-State is not very imposing.

Hopefully some guys who may have thought they were really good got a good dose of humble pie today.
Cuz I haven't seen that bad of a beating since November 5!

That is all.

[pinstripers]

Taylor Eldridge @tayloreldridge


Pretty troubling when WSU scored <0.60 PPP when each of 5 starters were on the floor. PT for Florida game: PG: Hill 67%, Cortes 19%, Pipkin 14% .......SG: Bell 59%, Cortes 41% .....SF: Beverly 59%, McGinnis 24% ..........PF: Bosnjak 41%, Washington 36%, Ighovodja 20% ........C: Ballard 76%, Bosnjak 24%

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