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  • #76
    Originally posted by Onegreatracer View Post

    If healthy we do have plenty of depth - but injuries/eligibility was ALWAYS a large concern with this group. Ballard and Meeks struggled with injuries their whole career, and we are lucky MB is eligible.

    Just a lot to leave riding on an “if” imo, but I definitely see your and Aargh’s points. Feels like with our luck though we should always be planning for the worst.
    Yea .. if he left scholarships open or something, i would be upset.. but we basically have one more scholarship player than allowed

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    • #77
      I have no data to back this up - it's just my speculation, but I believe bigs are the most sought-after players in the portal.

      It's entirely possible that the same guys Mills would have been trying to recruit as starters were being pursued by the power conferences as backups. The power conferences can offer more NIL money (even for a backup) and a trip to the NCAA's. The other hot commodity in the portal is likely to be upper class PG's.

      I'm not sold on Mills, but he's all we've got for another couple of years. Griping about the job he's doing isn't productive. He's what we've got and all we've got. May as well support him until it's possible to make a change.

      If we need $7 mill every year to stay competitive, Mills could be the absolute pinnacle of coaches who would come here. Right now the entire athletic department is a dumpster fire. Saal is trying, but there's no way to fix all the problems in a year or two. When he couldn't get the money to begin phase 2 of the Cessna project that was pretty solid evidence that the big money guys were taking a wait and see stance.

      We've got bigger problems than losing two of two PF's to injury. Our NIL situation appears to have been abysmal. Is it more likely that Mills is weak at recruiting big guys or that we didn't have enough NIL to recruit big guys?

      The way recruiting out of the portal seems to be shaping up, WSU might be relegated to recruiting and playing bigs out of HS. There will always be injury-prone and low BBIQ players in the portal. Those guys are all looking for more playing time than they're getting.

      There are very real reasons why most of the guys we're getting out of the portal were in the portal. Recruiting out of the portal is a new thing and taking some chances seems to be mandatory.

      In summary, the coach we've got is the one we're going to have for at least another 2 or 3 years. May as well support him when there is no option to replace him. Will we still have an athletic department by the time it's possible to replace him could be a legitimate question.
      The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
      We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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      • #78
        Game summary of the Wichita State Shockers vs. Saint Louis Billikens NCAAM game, final score 88-63, from November 22, 2024 on ESPN.

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        • #79
          It looks like SLU will be without reserve guard Josiah Dotzler. 11.7 mpg, 3 ppg, 1.3 apg

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          • #80
            I looked up Kenny's current stats and was stunned to see that hev has attempted ZERO 3 point shots.....

            I was always frustrated by what I perceived his effort to be...I could have misjudged him...quiet soul...

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            • #81
              SLU wins this one 75-65
              Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
              RIP Guy Always A Shocker
              Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
              ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
              Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
              Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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              • #82
                I was browsing peacocks menu for the game under sports- basketball - live and upcoming. It's nowhere to be found. Is anyone familiar with peacocks menu or how to find tonight's game?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by molly jabali View Post
                  I looked up Kenny's current stats and was stunned to see that hev has attempted ZERO 3 point shots.....

                  I was always frustrated by what I perceived his effort to be...I could have misjudged him...quiet soul...
                  Perhaps we should have played him down low more like they apparently are and play thru and around him like many expert basketball minds pointed out

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                    SLU wins this one 75-65
                    I'd be willing to bet you a beer they don't win by 10

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by asiseeit View Post

                      Perhaps we should have played him down low more like they apparently are and play thru and around him like many expert basketball minds pointed out
                      Offense was not his problem.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
                        SLU wins this one 75-65
                        sounds right

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                        • #87
                          If we lose to this SLU team without their best player by 10 points; we have some serious problems.

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post
                            I was browsing peacocks menu for the game under sports- basketball - live and upcoming. It's nowhere to be found. Is anyone familiar with peacocks menu or how to find tonight's game?
                            Are we sure this game is televised tonight? I don't see it listed anywhere either. It says Peacock on the ESPN app but GoShockers doesn't list it as being televised

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                            • #89
                              The official 2024-25 Men's Basketball schedule for the Wichita State Shockers

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by pinstripers View Post

                                sounds right
                                Sounds about right that you two would think that.

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