2024-25 Expectations for Shocker Basketball – “Put Up or Shut Up Season Kickoff Ed."

[Aargh]

I've posted this elsewhere - maybe even in this thread - but I think the first-possible date that Mills is fired is June 30, 2026. That's the end of his 3rd year and the date on which his early termination means we pay him 75% of the remainder of his contract and not 100%. The big issue with firing Mills then is June 30 is pretty late in the offseason to be looking for a new head coach.

There is, however, an earlier possibility. April 2026 is when the payments to Brown end. If we've gotten comfortable paying 3 coaches, firing Mills at the end of next season (March 2026) and hiring a new coach after April 2026 means we are still paying three coaches.

The payments to Marshall end in December 2026, which will free up more room. If we move on from Mills after next season, whatever new coach we hire could get a contract that materially balloons his second year.

Why coupldn't we hire a new coach Arpil 1 or so, but not terminate Mills until June 30. I'm not aware of anything that says there can only be one head coach on the staff at the same time. there has to be some way to get a new hire before firing the outgoing guy.

[Stickboy46]

Why coupldn't we hire a new coach Arpil 1 or so, but not terminate Mills until June 30. I'm not aware of anything that says there can only be one head coach on the staff at the same time. there has to be some way to get a new hire before firing the outgoing guy.

1. Pretty sure there are NCAA rules about coach limits.
2. If it went to court, it would be pretty easy for Mills to argue that the hiring of his replacement is the official notice of termination so he should get 100% and not 75%.

[WuShock Reaper]

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/schedule/Wichita-State

How much did the needle move since the last game in the Warren Nolan methodology?
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Current Record vs. Predicted	RPI	NET	Current Record vs. Predicted	RPI	NET	Current Record vs. Predicted	RPI	NET
Preseason: 0-0, 17-12	141		11th Game: 8-3, 19-11	94	124
1st Game: 1-0, 20-9	86		12th Game: 9-3, 20-10	79	108
2nd Game: 2-0, 22-7	57		13th Game: 10-3, 20-10	83	107
3rd Game: 3-0, 22-7	60		14th Game: 10-4, 19-11	81	106
4th Game: 4-0, 22-7	64		15th Game: 10-5, 17-13	129	133
5th Game: 5-0, 23-6	56		16th Game: 10-6, 16-14	152	158
6th Game: 6-0, 23-6	48		17th Game: 11-7, 16-14	150	155
7th Game: 7-0, 22-8	63		18th Game: 11-8, 14-16	183	161
8th Game: 7-1, 22-8	68	93	19th Game: 11-9, 14-16	156	175
9th Game: 8-1, 23-7	63	79
10th Game: 8-2, 21-9	37	92

[WuShock Reaper]

https://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2025/team-predict-schedule?team=Wichita-State

How much did the needle move since the loss to Tulsa in the Warren Nolan methodology?
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Current Record vs. Predicted	RPI	NET	Current Record vs. Predicted	RPI	NET	Current Record vs. Predicted	RPI	NET
Preseason: 0-0, 17-12	141		11th Game: 8-3, 19-11	94	124
1st Game: 1-0, 20-9	86		12th Game: 9-3, 20-10	79	108
2nd Game: 2-0, 22-7	57		13th Game: 10-3, 20-10	83	107
3rd Game: 3-0, 22-7	60		14th Game: 10-4, 19-11	81	106
4th Game: 4-0, 22-7	64		15th Game: 10-5, 17-13	129	133
5th Game: 5-0, 23-6	56		16th Game: 10-6, 16-14	152	158
6th Game: 6-0, 23-6	48		17th Game: 11-7, 16-14	150	155
7th Game: 7-0, 22-8	63		18th Game: 11-8, 14-16	183	161
8th Game: 7-1, 22-8	68	93	19th Game: 11-9, 14-16	156	175
9th Game: 8-1, 23-7	63	79	20h Game: 11-10, 13-17	190	164
10th Game: 8-2, 21-9	37	92

[ShockBand]

[WstateU]

[BostonWu]

How did our NET improve after losing to Tulsa?

[asiseeit]

I'm too damn old but someone or some group needs to be organizing to oust BOTH KS and PM. We are paying them to destroy our program. Give me Bush the TBT coach along with Simon and maybe Miller as coaches.

[SubGod22]

How did our NET improve after losing to Tulsa?

It actually dropped 10 spots from the day before.

[BostonWu]

It actually dropped 10 spots from the day before.

Doesn't it show it going from 175 to 164?

[SubGod22]

Doesn't it show it going from 175 to 164?

That's from the game before. A lot happens between games. The day before the Tulsa game we were at 154. Not sure how, but when I update the NET thread it always shows the previous day as well.

[WuShock16]

I'm too damn old but someone or some group needs to be organizing to oust BOTH KS and PM. We are paying them to destroy our program. Give me Bush the TBT coach along with Simon and maybe Miller as coaches.

I get the anger right now, but no, absolutely no. Because I'm also of the belief that the TBT crew needs a refresh with coaching. But that's for another discussion.

[SubGod22]

I'm not advocating for this, but a few recent comments got me wondering. Garrett Stutz is done playing and at one point he had coaching on the brain. Does anyone know if he's gotten into coaching anywhere?

Also wondering when Matt Braeuer might get a HC opportunity somewhere. I know McCasland is high on him.

Is Ryan Martin still coaching anywhere? I know he spent some time at UMKC and Northern Colorado at one point, but I've lost track of him.

Do we have any other former players floating around the coaching world at any level?

[WuShock16]

I'm not advocating for this, but a few recent comments got me wondering. Garrett Stutz is done playing and at one point he had coaching on the brain. Does anyone know if he's gotten into coaching anywhere?

Also wondering when Matt Braeuer might get a HC opportunity somewhere. I know McCasland is high on him.

Is Ryan Martin still coaching anywhere? I know he spent some time at UMKC and Northern Colorado at one point, but I've lost track of him.

Do we have any other former players floating around the coaching world at any level?

Stutz is too smart to get into coaching. He’s doing quite well in the business world, from what Doc tells me.

Matt will be a head coach someday. He probably needs either more time at Texas Tech or a stop off at a smaller school before he would consider him.

Ryan Martin might or might not still be coaching. He got hit pretty hard with some NCAA violations at Northern Colorado.