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2024-25 Expectations for Shocker Basketball – “Put Up or Shut Up Season Kickoff Ed."

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  • #61
    How much did the 'W" vs. Northern Iowa move the needle with the Warren Nolan methodology...
    2025 Wichita State Shockers Men's Basketball Predicted Results for Every Upcoming Game and Predicted Final RPI, Strength of Schedule, and Quadrant Wins

    Preseason 0-0: 17-12, RPI 141
    1st Game 1-0: 20-9, RPI 86
    2nd Game 2-0; 22-7, RPI 57
    3rd Game 3-0; 22-7, RPI 60​
    4th Game 4-0; 22-7, RPI 64

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    • #62
      Gotta wonder how much this latest win hurts us lol

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      • #63
        Originally posted by ShockHat View Post
        Gotta wonder how much this latest win hurts us lol
        we dropped ~10 spots in KenPom

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        • #64
          if we keep up this winning we may find ourselves outside the Top 150

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

            we dropped ~10 spots in KenPom
            Lmao that’s pretty gracious considering how bad that game was.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Aargh View Post

              I wouldn't give it a thought until after Marshall and Brown are paid off. And I hope Mills knew that coming in.
              And even then I question what WSU's finances will allow them to do. The fact that the WSU-ICAA financial report for FYE 06/30/24 has not been posted yet when it was usually out in late September or early October for the past 10 years or so seems to me like a bad sign. At this point I wonder if it will be released at all. The question is why is this the case? But it doesn't seem to be much of a concern so perhaps it really doesn't matter.

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              • #67
                one game at a time and get healthy

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                • #68
                  At the end of the day, we will play some out of our mind games (in a good way). We will also play at times like we did last night. My unbiased expectation for Shocker basketball this year is a bid to the NIT. We have an NIT roster of players. It is above average, but not good and certainly not great. We also have an above average coach. I hope he will recruit his arse off for next year, because we potentially lose 8 players that will be out of eligibility if my count is correct. This year's group might be our best team for a couple of years.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by SHOXAAC View Post
                    At the end of the day, we will play some out of our mind games (in a good way). We will also play at times like we did last night. My unbiased expectation for Shocker basketball this year is a bid to the NIT. We have an NIT roster of players. It is above average, but not good and certainly not great. We also have an above average coach. I hope he will recruit his arse off for next year, because we potentially lose 8 players that will be out of eligibility if my count is correct. This year's group might be our best team for a couple of years.
                    If this is our best team for a couple of years, in this transfer portal era, then we don’t stand a chance at ever coming back. The apathy will have long set in and we’ll be just like Butler. A once great, flash in the pan of a program. And I’ll be honest - I don’t know if I’d be willing to stay up til 3am watching that either.

                    I’m here to see the program recover. Not shrivel up and die.

                    I still stand on the point that in this run-down garbage ass AAC, with this senior laden of a team, we need to pretty much make the tourney or basically the semi/final of the NIT (but even then, the NIT is not what it once was either in terms of representation).

                    i know that’s high expectations. But this is the portal era, our program is on its last breaths of air, and with three HCs salaries on the books, we have to produce real tangible results.

                    I suppose it could be argued that once GM and Brown’s salaries are paid up, we could see the comeback then. But imo, you’ll have lost the momentum of a new AD + coach hire then as well as the boosters who have been slowly coming back (as far as I’m aware). In other words, it’s too late.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by ShockHat View Post

                      Lmao that’s pretty gracious considering how bad that game was.
                      Agreed, i thought it was going to be worse

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Speed View Post

                        i wouldn't draft that extension quite yet.
                        Not even close (agreed). We were down a fringe G-League player that changed the entire game plan. If HE was playing last night...he would've had 10 blocks and completly changed thier attack. Mills let his boys play (possibily an experimental teaching game without him) and allowed it to be a close game for too long. The G-leaguer is a healthy must!!!

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                        FINAL FOURS:
                        1965, 2013

                        NCAA Tournament:
                        1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

                        NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

                        AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                        Number of Times Ranked: 157
                        Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
                        Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
                        Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

                        Highest Recent AP Ranking:
                        #3 - Dec. 2017
                        #2 ~ March 2014

                        Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
                        #2 ~ March 2014
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                          • #73
                            2025 Wichita State Shockers Men's Basketball Predicted Results for Every Upcoming Game and Predicted Final RPI, Strength of Schedule, and Quadrant Wins

                            How much did the 'W" vs. Saint Louis move the needle with the Warren Nolan methodology...

                            Preseason 0-0: 17-12, RPI 141
                            1st Game 1-0: 20-9, RPI 86
                            2nd Game 2-0; 22-7, RPI 57
                            3rd Game 3-0; 22-7, RPI 60​
                            4th Game 4-0; 22-7, RPI 64
                            5th Game, 5-0; 23-6, RPI 56​

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                            • #74
                              I believe we've seen two outlier games in a row. Shox are probably not as bad as they looked against Monmouth and not as good as they looked against St. Louis.
                              The future's so bright - I gotta wear shades.
                              We like to cut down nets and get sized for championship rings.

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                              • #75
                                78-65

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