ECU (9-10, 2-4) at WICHITA STATE (8-10, 0-5) Pregame Discussion

[SubGod22]

Purple Rain - 76
Golden Shower - 72

Hey now, Tulsa is forever and always the Golden Shower

[Dan]

Hey now, Tulsa is forever and always the Golden Shower

Shoulda went with the Purple Plops and the Golden Deuce I guess

[WuDrWu]

Pants-on-fire defense for 40 minutes would be an indicator that our players won't give up.

A good crowd encouraging the young men to get after it would be an indicator that our fans haven't given up.

[molly jabali]

Simply based on the law of averages, we’ll win this one. We aren’t going 2-16 or 0-18 or whatever.

Mills has changed the lineup which seems to have helped us opening up games (see last 2). But he probably needs to change something up at halftime or he’s gonna project out that he does little to adapt and/or he’s not bright in the head.

I saw a coach once not take his team into the locker at half to try something different… coming out after going in isn’t working

[MadDog]

Bench Bell for the entire game and give his minutes to Cortez and Joy. So many positives from this move we’d win for sure!

[ShockerFever]

Bench Bell for the entire game and give his minutes to Cortez and Joy. So many positives from this move we’d win for sure!

Couldn’t do worse.

[Atxshoxfan]

Couldn’t do worse.

Couldn't do worse if you played 5 Joe Pleasants on the floor for the entire game.

[Stickboy46]

Bench Bell for the entire game and give his minutes to Cortez and Joy. So many positives from this move we’d win for sure!

Mainly Joy .. Cortes really hasn't earned any more minutes.

[Kung Wu]

Cortes is a real enigma for a coach:

1) You LOVE his energy and spark.
2) You love his ball handling skills.
3) You love his ability to connect with Ballard.
4) You like that Cortes can actually shoot threes.
... but ..
1) You hate when that energy isn't selective and just brain farts the ball away.
2) You hate when he tries too hard to make a too difficult passes.
3) You hate that there's room temperature dudes in laying in a morgue that might shoot layups better on any given night.

It's why moving Bell to the 2 works. Bell can bully, but shouldn't very often -- only if he is 1v1 and not 1v2 or 1v3. Cortes draws the pesky opponents PG away allowing Bell to operate. Also moving Bell to the 2 gives us two wing threats for three balls: Bell and Rogers.

When Cortes, Bell, and Rogers are on the court, you get the following 3 point shooting:

Rogers: 0.388
Bell: 0.325
Cortes: 0.357 (surprised anyone?)

Plus better looks from Ballard, and a bit peskier defense than: Bell, Beverly, Rogers.

[asiseeit]

NOT defensively - quite a bit weaker IMO

[WstateU]

Cortes is a real enigma for a coach:

1) You LOVE his energy and spark.
2) You love his ball handling skills.
3) You love his ability to connect with Ballard.
4) You like that Cortes can actually shoot threes.
... but ..
1) You hate when that energy isn't selective and just brain farts the ball away.
2) You hate when he tries too hard to make a too difficult passes.
3) You hate that there's room temperature dudes in laying in a morgue that might shoot layups better on any given night.

It's why moving Bell to the 2 works. Bell can bully, but shouldn't very often -- only if he is 1v1 and not 1v2 or 1v3. Cortes draws the pesky opponents PG away allowing Bell to operate. Also moving Bell to the 2 gives us two wing threats for three balls: Bell and Rogers.

When Cortes, Bell, and Rogers are on the court, you get the following 3 point shooting:

Rogers: 0.388
Bell: 0.0325
Cortes: 0.357 (surprised anyone?)

Plus better looks from Ballard, and a bit peskier defense than: Bell, Beverly, Rogers.

Gump, you're a damn genius...

[Stickboy46]

Cortes is a real enigma for a coach:

1) You LOVE his energy and spark.
2) You love his ball handling skills.
3) You love his ability to connect with Ballard.
4) You like that Cortes can actually shoot threes.
... but ..
1) You hate when that energy isn't selective and just brain farts the ball away.
2) You hate when he tries too hard to make a too difficult passes.
3) You hate that there's room temperature dudes in laying in a morgue that might shoot layups better on any given night.

It's why moving Bell to the 2 works. Bell can bully, but shouldn't very often -- only if he is 1v1 and not 1v2 or 1v3. Cortes draws the pesky opponents PG away allowing Bell to operate. Also moving Bell to the 2 gives us two wing threats for three balls: Bell and Rogers.

When Cortes, Bell, and Rogers are on the court, you get the following 3 point shooting:

Rogers: 0.388
Bell: 0.0325
Cortes: 0.357 (surprised anyone?)

Plus better looks from Ballard, and a bit peskier defense than: Bell, Beverly, Rogers.

The problem ... at least so far .. is the bad 3 items you listed happen at a much more frequent pace than the good 4 items you list. He has by far the highest turnover rate on the team (though that's actual turnovers, not counting Bell's "Turnovers" when taking a bad shot over 3 defenders).

Basically we have to decide whether we want to give the other team the ball because Cortes throws it right to them or loses his dribble OR we give it to them off of a horrible shot contested by 3 people.

That's why i say lets give a ton of minutes to Joy .. at least he has multiple years ahead of him. See what he can do because i think he also gives all the energy aspects that Cortes does.

[Stickboy46]

NOT defensively - quite a bit weaker IMO

He's a boom/bust defender. Gambles a lot so will either get us some flashy fast breaks, or give up easy shots.

[SubGod22]

Mainly Joy .. Cortes really hasn't earned any more minutes.

[WuShock16]

The problem ... at least so far .. is the bad 3 items you listed happen at a much more frequent pace than the good 4 items you list. He has by far the highest turnover rate on the team (though that's actual turnovers, not counting Bell's "Turnovers" when taking a bad shot over 3 defenders).

Basically we have to decide whether we want to give the other team the ball because Cortes throws it right to them or loses his dribble OR we give it to them off of a horrible shot contested by 3 people.

That's why i say lets give a ton of minutes to Joy .. at least he has multiple years ahead of him. See what he can do because i think he also gives all the energy aspects that Cortes does.

But will those multiple years be spent at 21st and Hillside?