Paul Mills Slightly Toasty Seat

[asiseeit]

I like the man but not the coach. The fault is a level above him. Either the AD and the boosters do something or there will be more nights like this and UMKC. Our program has fallen off a cliff. Who is to blame? Please excuse me I have to go throw up what's left now.

[Stickboy46]

The seat isn't just hot, it's full on in flames... Only problem? We gave him a flame retardant suit in the form of a contract we can't afford to buy out (due to other dumb decisions). So he's just sitting comfortably while the program burns down around him

[rjl]

The seat isn't just hot, it's full on in flames... Only problem? We gave him a flame retardant suit in the form of a contract we can't afford to buy out (due to other dumb decisions). So he's just sitting comfortably while the program burns down around him

Our current AD gave Mills a contract with a buyout clause that's even worse for WSU than Brown's was.

[another shocker]

man, how bad is jerome tang?

[Veritas]

We need to hope we have an angel donor step in and let us make a move after this year. If we have to wait until after next year, it means Mills will get to replace 80% of this roster. He's shown he's not capable of that.

The challenge is why would an angel donor have confidence in the AD making a good decision for a replacement if given the chance? I’d rather the angel donor invest in facilities and let the AD work himself out of the hole for which he is partly responsible.

[WuShock16]

Wealthy people don’t become so by throwing good money at bad ideas.

[ShockerFever]

The seat is hot now. If someone has a defense of this coaching, I’d love to hear the spin.

I'm sure Mke Kennedy will spin.

[Singeril]

I’m not sure an angel donor exists for WSU anymore. Too many have been turned off by university decisions over the past few years…athletic decisions and others. It’s a very sad time on the hilltop. There would have to be some major changes for some of the donors to come back into the fold.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

The seat is hot now. If someone has a defense of this coaching, I’d love to hear the spin.

Like WSU's play this year, there is no defense.

[JVShocker]

Now that guy was a fan!

[TrackSuitAndTie]

Still highly unlikely that WSU has the money to fire HCPM after this season, but there is nothing stopping ADKS from structuring the next HC's contract to have a very low salary at the beginning and then jump up significantly after the Brown and Marshall buyouts expire (so long as they still get the bigger money in the event of termination).

Something like:

2025-2026: $500,000
2026-2027: $1,500,000 (Brown and Marshall buyouts end in April and November 2026)
2027-2028: $2,000,000

Of course, you would need to find a candidate that is agreeable to such a structure and likely to warrant the higher salary figure on the backend of the deal, but it's not impossible with some contract creativity.

[Stickboy46]

Still highly unlikely that WSU has the money to fire HCPM after this season, but there is nothing stopping ADKS from structuring the next HC's contract to have a very low salary at the beginning and then jump up significantly after the Brown and Marshall buyouts expire (so long as they still get the bigger money in the event of termination).

Something like:

2025-2026: $500,000
2026-2027: $1,500,000 (Brown and Marshall buyouts end in April and November 2026)
2027-2028: $2,000,000

Of course, you would need to find a candidate that is agreeable to such a structure and likely to warrant the higher salary figure on the backend of the deal, but it's not impossible with some contract creativity.

That coach would also likely want an extremely favorable buyout provision of their own with a structure like that. Especially since we would have fired coaches 2 years in twice then.

I think barring someone stepping up with big money, no coach worth moving on is going to take a paycut to step into this mess, even if its a temporary paycut. Not waiting a year to fire fHCIB and actually lining up a home run candidate likely will be ADKS's downfall. The next hire HAS to be a home run candidate.

[pinstripers]

Need to change the title of this thread

[Dan]

I’m not sure how much quality coaching even matters anymore, You have to be able to constantly bring in new talent, that’s the name of the game. You have to be good enough to figure out how to mesh new players year over year. Old school coaches that depended on developing young guys are leaving the game. We’re still figuring out which coaches can do this, especially at schools with NIL deficiencies.

[TrackSuitAndTie]

That coach would also likely want an extremely favorable buyout provision of their own with a structure like that. Especially since we would have fired coaches 2 years in twice then.

I think barring someone stepping up with big money, no coach worth moving on is going to take a paycut to step into this mess, even if its a temporary paycut. Not waiting a year to fire fHCIB and actually lining up a home run candidate likely will be ADKS's downfall. The next hire HAS to be a home run candidate.

If I'm ADKS, I'm definitely trying to feel out donors as well as kick tires on some potential candidates who might be willing to come in for cheap at first.