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  • I know it would likely never happen, but I would love to see ALL colleges tell coaches to pound sand with these ridiculous buyout clauses. It should at most be the equivalent of one year of the contract, and honestly less than that. But these clauses are part of system now, kind of like how Clark Griswold was depending on his bonus. I would also rather see contracts with a much lower base amount, and then very lucrative performance bonuses.
    Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind. ~Dr. Seuss

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    • Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post
      RCIV played more minutes. HCIB won a conference crown, GGG didn't. The Conference is WAY WAY weaker today. Would the idiots who thought Brown was cohen/thompson redux change their tune now? Apparently not according to some of the posts on here. Well, you got your wish.

      We all saw the Monmouth game. That looked almost worse than the 90's...
      lol get over your fanboy Brown. He used Marshall’s players during a shortened COVID season to back into a conference “title.”

      Give me an effing break. And we looked great against Drake in the play-in game that year. What a joke.
      Deuces Valley.
      ... No really, deuces.
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      "Enjoy the ride."

      - a smart man

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      • Dismiss is probably not the right word but somehow, someway, Acy should take over the rest of this season. PM could make a public statement that for the good of the team and the program new leadership is needed NOW and he is going to allow Acy to drive the bus. Let him collect his salary but let Acy run the show. If Acy turns the ship around both PM and Acy could claim much of the credit.......kind of like Memphis.

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        • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
          Dismiss is probably not the right word but somehow, someway, Acy should take over the rest of this season. PM could make a public statement that for the good of the team and the program new leadership is needed NOW and he is going to allow Acy to drive the bus. Let him collect his salary but let Acy run the show. If Acy turns the ship around both PM and Acy could claim much of the credit.......kind of like Memphis.
          No coach is going to voluntarily give up in the middle of a year unless they are retiring. Mills still wants to coach past this contract and I think giving up is worse than poor results from a career standpoint.

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          • Mills is most likely going to get this + next season. If ADKS is going to make a move, will most likely be in Spring/Summer 2026.

            The next coaching hire is going to make or break this program. Another Brown and Mills and you might as well lump us in with ECU in terms of a program. Heck, we're already closer to ECU than Memphis as a program with where things stand now.

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            • Originally posted by ShockerFever View Post

              lol get over your fanboy Brown. He used Marshall’s players during a shortened COVID season to back into a conference “title.”

              Give me an effing break. And we looked great against Drake in the play-in game that year. What a joke.
              Blow it out your a** mongoloid. ADKS screwed up by listening to retards like you. You got your wish Mills fanboy d******.

              Cohen, Thompson and Smithson deserved 3rd years but Brown didn't. Only a troglodyte would think that was a smart move while not considering the serious ramifications of a misstep. Do you comprehend, cave dweller? Oh, wait...




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              • Can we lock this thread until the end of the season, or maybe even next? He's not getting fired in 2025. Drop it.
                "Say it slowly and savor it..."
                Nothing worse than sCUm/sKUm

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                • Originally posted by wsushockerdude View Post
                  Can we lock this thread until the end of the season, or maybe even next? He's not getting fired in 2025. Drop it.
                  No

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                  • Look, no matter which side of the argument you are on, the fact that there even is an argument about whether Brown or Mills was better should tell you all there is to say. We should have kept Brown for one more year simply because it would have been cheaper to fire him then.

                    We got completely outcoached and outplayed last night by a team from the Summit League that I guarantee you has an NIL budget of money found in the laundry and a pack of corndogs. Living here, I can tell you that hardly anyone in Kansas City cares about UKC basketball. And we did it at home in front of a stadium that was less than half full.

                    Is Brown coaching anywhere now? No. Is Gregg Marshall coaching anywhere now? Also no. But both of them are willing to sit back and take what WSU is paying them because of a series of bad decisions on the school's part.

                    The only question now is what can we do from here. I have no idea. If I dropped $1 million into the NIL budget right now I'd have no faith that Mills can attract a good roster with it, and much less faith that Mills could then coach that roster.
                    The truth will set you free. But first, it will piss you off.

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                    • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post
                      Dismiss is probably not the right word but somehow, someway, Acy should take over the rest of this season.
                      This sounds idiotic. What Division 1 schools has Acy turned down?

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                      • Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

                        That feels like thinking small. I think the money can/will come with the right driver. I want our AD thinking big. You go to the donors and say "Hey if you donate XXXXX, we have a verbal that we can land (insert home run coach)".

                        Your path might work too (see Drake), but I'd rather us think big and try to go after the money with a very targeted goal vs right now it just feels like its "hey give us money and we might do something good with it"
                        Right or wrong I'm quickly losing faith in ADKS. Never met the guy but his public persona seems very rigid with a simple by the books demeanor; too serious, robotic-like. Not sure that fosters critical relationships or confidence in the boosters.

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                        • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post

                          Right or wrong I'm quickly losing faith in ADKS. Never met the guy but his public persona seems very rigid with a simple by the books demeanor; too serious, robotic-like. Not sure that fosters critical relationships or confidence in the boosters.
                          He can and should be criticized for his job performance but he is far from ridged and robotic. I have been around him a small handful of times. He is a pleasure to talk to and be around in general as a person, the specifics of his job not withstanding.

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                          • Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

                            This sounds idiotic. What Division 1 schools has Acy turned down?
                            In all honesty do you think he could do any worse?

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                            • Originally posted by asiseeit View Post

                              In all honesty do you think he could do any worse?
                              We said that when we moved on from Brown without a plan.... and now here we are ... doing worse. We suck .. but there is still another level of suck (see Tulsa)

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                              • Originally posted by SHOXAAC View Post

                                He can and should be criticized for his job performance but he is far from ridged and robotic. I have been around him a small handful of times. He is a pleasure to talk to and be around in general as a person, the specifics of his job not withstanding.
                                Fair enough. I'm just going off his general public persona rather than private encounters. I've not been impressed with him on radio or print.

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