Huh? NCAA Throws Away Rule Book on Transfers

[ShockTalk]

This isn't going to end well for most of the non-revenue sports if this doesn't get overturned.

This affects all college athletes. It's not going to end well with a lot of D1 universities, smaller D1 schools, non-D1, and JUCO unless STUDENT athletes accept their scholarship/room and board as most of the payment. Many schools who "lose" money with athletics may just tell the students athletes to go elsewhere.

[JVShocker]

This affects all college athletes. It's not going to end well with a lot of D1 universities, smaller D1 schools, non-D1, and JUCO unless STUDENT athletes accept their scholarship/room and board as most of the payment. Many schools who "lose" money with athletics may just tell the students athletes to go elsewhere.

Just saw this across the screen watching the game.

Welp. I know what my response would be....



I'd just shutter athletics if this didn't get overturned.

[shock]

At this point, they just need to pull scholarships and invoice players on a net 30 basis

[Kung Wu]

Well ... if they are employees, they can be put under contract and can also be fired for not performing.

[Stickboy46]

This affects all college athletes. It's not going to end well with a lot of D1 universities, smaller D1 schools, non-D1, and JUCO unless STUDENT athletes accept their scholarship/room and board as most of the payment. Many schools who "lose" money with athletics may just tell the students athletes to go elsewhere.

Yup. That's where i was going with my comment. Some schools will fund Football and Basketball. No idea how Title IX will play into this if they are considered employees though. But you can bet there will be a LOT of sports getting dropped if all athletes are considered employees. The big "win" they thought they just got will end up with them having no sport at all and paying to go to school there like everyone else.

[Dan]

The courts have already overturned affirmative action in the application process, I see no reason why they would keep Title 9.

[shoxlax]

Well ... if they are employees, they can be put under contract and can also be fired for not performing.

I think you are on to something. The employee ruling is a two way street.

[Dan]

This whole thing reminds me of the fall of the music business. It’s not going to end up where the athletes (musicians) hoped it would

[Kung Wu]

There are mountains of precedence of federal, state, and local forms asking if citizens are employed or a student, clearly distinguishing the two to rule out any form of labor conflict. Suddenly a government agency run by socialists decides to ignore the precedent, so that's that?

What are the back tax implications to every single school since the inception of sports? Do all former college players get additional social security income commensurate with their former employment? Why not?

What about all the injuries? Where was their worker's comp benefit? Guess we gotta reimburse those adults too, don't we? Every football school should have to pony up for every former "employee's" injuries.

What about those kids whose scholarships weren't renewed? Wrongful termination? Shouldn't they have received unemployment compensation commensurate with their former scholarship earning power?

It would be prudent for a federal court to overturn this post haste, and then the NLRB should be disbanded.

[BostonWu]

I'm afraid in the end greed will completely blow up college athletics. And I'm not just talking the athletes but all parties involved. Unfortunately I could see a scenario where WSU ends up at a D2 equivalent in all of this. The P5 will break away from the NCAA and everyone else will end up in a world they never knew.

[Aargh]

For non-revenue sports, don't require the athletic department to cover scholarships, just don't charge the "scholarship" athletes. It doesn't cost the Universities that much more to have 26 "students" in a class than 24. Dorms, food and books would be different. Someone has to pay for those.

Even with that, minimum wage gets messy. A 4-hour bus ride for 40 athletes can get pricey.

For the revenue sports, every athlete/employee signs the same employment contract with a minimal base pay. Then load those contracts up with incentive clauses. Signing bonuses offered for players to return. No scholarshps. "Employees" of the University always pay their own tuition.

Still gets messy with minimum wage. Does conditioning work outside of practices count as time worked? Photo sessions. Media interviews.

There are going to be a lot of unintended consequences the way all of this is working out.

[pinstripers]

Soon, players will be moving between games.

[1972Shocker]

This affects all college athletes. It's not going to end well with a lot of D1 universities, smaller D1 schools, non-D1, and JUCO unless STUDENT athletes accept their scholarship/room and board as most of the payment. Many schools who "lose" money with athletics may just tell the students athletes to go elsewhere.

Actually, if this ruling holds the scholarships, stipends and any other fringe benefits received by the student athlete/employee would probably be considered taxable income under current tax law.

[RoyalShock]

So are members of the jazz band, orchestra, choir, theater all going to be considered employees too? They perform at events where the school charges admission.

This could have effects beyond sports, and negatively affect the arts.

[shock]

So are members of the jazz band, orchestra, choir, theater all going to be considered employees too? They perform at events where the school charges admission.

This could have effects beyond sports, and negatively affect the arts.

All the arts will have to do is have a suggested donation. The arts community as a whole is pretty honorable and will still pay.