Huh? NCAA Throws Away Rule Book on Transfers

[Aargh]

Coach's motivational speech to star player, circa 2025:

"I want you to take coaching and work with me on making you better. I want you to lay it all out there every day in practice and in every game. Hustle and give it everything you've got. Have a home run year on the court, and you should be able to get outstanding NIL offers from rich schools. We all know you're not going to be back next year, so make this year your year to remember here. Then go get a fat paycheck next year."

"We've got the best staff in the nation to prepare you to succeed in the next level, the P5 schools."

That last sentence can be used in recruiting, too.

[Kung Wu]

Coach's motivational speech to star player, circa 2025:

"I want you to take coaching and work with me on making you better. I want you to lay it all out there every day in practice and in every game. Hustle and give it everything you've got. Have a home run year on the court, and you should be able to get outstanding NIL offers from rich schools. We all know you're not going to be back next year, so make this year your year to remember here. Then go get a fat paycheck next year."

"We've got the best staff in the nation to prepare you to succeed in the next level, the P5 schools."

That last sentence can be used in recruiting, too.

You come up with some clever out of the box thinking, but then buy into your own silliness and run with it a lot of the times. This isn't that. You are really frustratingly close to spot-on this time! Hahahaha and *cry* because it's true.

[calfan]

I am going to drop this article in here:

SEC, Big Ten 'advisory group' stands as coded threat to NCAA: Figure it out, or we'll go off ourselves

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/sec-big-ten-advisory-group-stands-as-coded-threat-to-ncaa-figure-it-out-or-we-ll-go-off-ourselves/ar-BB1hGUiB

Wichita State better be more awake about this than they were about NIL!

[Dan]

I am going to drop this article in here:

SEC, Big Ten 'advisory group' stands as coded threat to NCAA: Figure it out, or we'll go off ourselves

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/sec-big-ten-advisory-group-stands-as-coded-threat-to-ncaa-figure-it-out-or-we-ll-go-off-ourselves/ar-BB1hGUiB

Wichita State better be more awake about this than they were about NIL!

The SEC and Big12 having been plotting their break for years. Coming out with it like it’s the NCAAs fault is a joke.

[SB Shock]

Wichita State better be more awake about this than they were about NIL!

What would you have WSU do? The value of the WSU brand is at an all-time low. At least in the Cohen years, there was baseball that was on the national stage year after year. There is nothing now.

[calfan]

SB Shock, I will take one shot at answering your question. When NIL came out. our former athletic director was asleep on the job. While other schools put together NIL Collectives like KU, our athletic director waited for the NCAA to give him the green light to start being a part of NIL.

Now, the old Big 10 and the SEC are getting ready to put together a Superleague. The entry cost will be about $35, 000 per student athlete. The schools are going to take over the nils directly. Some other details are yet to be worked out. This new Superleague might begin as early as next August.

First, we need to be aware it is coming. Second, the AD needs to talk to people a lot more important than I am about what we want to do to compete with it. Third, would we rather play basketball at a more minor level? I could see basketball moving to two or three divisions kind of like football.

That is what I mean. Do not wait for two or three years for this to happen and wonder why we got left behind like NIL.

[Dan]

The Big 12, Big East and ACC will form league #2. Everyone else will be D2 equivalent.

[JVShocker]

The Big Boys want their own party. They don't need the NCAA. They're big business, and the NCAA is probably just taking a cut of the revenue (maybe even a lion's share). These new Power Conferences don't / won't need the NCAA moving forward. They're essentially another form of professional sports. Like a huge pyramid scheme, the top schools at the pyramid want all the say and all the revenue. They want the cake, the frosting, ice cream and the cherry on top. Oh, sure, some schools can have a few nuts or maybe some sprinkles, but eventually, what's to prevent the top of the top from wanting even more 2 or 3 years down the road? Nothing at all.

I'd be fine watching the non-power conference schools form their own organization. I don't know who makes up the org. I don't know that it matters. Just give me college sports the way it used to be. I'd be fine watching a group of players mature through a program over the course of four years. I'm disgusted and through with the "one and done's." I mean, when the "one and done's" weren't good enough to make it to the next level, they changed the rules again so they could switch schools as many times as they want to go to a better one. There's a reason they came up with the saying, and I'll tell you it is fact - the grass isn't always greener. The thousands of athletes left hanging in the transfer portal could confirm. Imagine not getting to watch the X-Man grow and mature over 4 years because he thought he could do better elsewhere every year. Sign athletes up on contractual basis, 2 years minimum. Can renegotiate after 2 years. Pay them a "stipend". All athletes sign non-compete agreements for 1 year if they bolt before end up the contracts. At the end of the day, the basketball would be just as good (if not better with a "team" of 4 year players) than the power schools.

[shock]

I don’t see how more than 30 or so schools can afford to remove football from the NCAA long term. The market is not unlimited and market share is going to be diluted if all these schools do this. I also don’t see this happening in basketball. I think a few schools would like it to but definitely not all that are going to try to remove football could afford to move basketball.

[Dan]

Let them walk and then create new rules to keep them from competing with the NCAA schools. Need to get our hands around NIL, perhaps create a transparent player max pay package that tops out around $50k/yr depending on sport. Fight fire with fire.

[Topshock]

The Big Boys want their own party. They don't need the NCAA. They're big business, and the NCAA is probably just taking a cut of the revenue (maybe even a lion's share). These new Power Conferences don't / won't need the NCAA moving forward. They're essentially another form of professional sports. Like a huge pyramid scheme, the top schools at the pyramid want all the say and all the revenue. They want the cake, the frosting, ice cream and the cherry on top. Oh, sure, some schools can have a few nuts or maybe some sprinkles, but eventually, what's to prevent the top of the top from wanting even more 2 or 3 years down the road? Nothing at all.

I'd be fine watching the non-power conference schools form their own organization. I don't know who makes up the org. I don't know that it matters. Just give me college sports the way it used to be. I'd be fine watching a group of players mature through a program over the course of four years. I'm disgusted and through with the "one and done's." I mean, when the "one and done's" weren't good enough to make it to the next level, they changed the rules again so they could switch schools as many times as they want to go to a better one. There's a reason they came up with the saying, and I'll tell you it is fact - the grass isn't always greener. The thousands of athletes left hanging in the transfer portal could confirm. Imagine not getting to watch the X-Man grow and mature over 4 years because he thought he could do better elsewhere every year. Sign athletes up on contractual basis, 2 years minimum. Can renegotiate after 2 years. Pay them a "stipend". All athletes sign non-compete agreements for 1 year if they bolt before end up the contracts. At the end of the day, the basketball would be just as good (if not better with a "team" of 4 year players) than the power schools.

Fantastic post!

The only thing that would stop them is if the general public lost interest in them and quit watching. It seems plausible to me as I would have no interest in watching a low-level professional league. I would watch a championship game or series between the champion of the low-level professional league and the true college champion.

While it may never happen, my dream would be to witness tv ratings for the college game grow to a much higher level than the low-level professional league to the point they had to beg to be let back in the college game.

[Atxshoxfan]

I don't think it will be like divisions, like I once believed. I now think it will be more like G league or farm systems.

[ShockTalk]

Wonder if a player on a power conference roster in that pro league who wasn't seeing any playing time (or got cut), would even be allowed to play true college ball? Would he continue to get his remaining college education paid for?

[Dan]

Wonder if a player on a power conference roster in that pro league who wasn't seeing any playing time (or got cut), would even be allowed to play true college ball? Would he continue to get his remaining college education paid for?

the ideal rules would prevent them from coming back to the NCAA. It would make a lot of players think twice about joining that new league.

[Stickboy46]

This isn't going to end well for most of the non-revenue sports if this doesn't get overturned.