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  • #16
    Originally posted by shoxlax View Post

    Did we switch conferences?
    Shoxlax, are you predicting an 8th place finish as did Doc? Both of you are voices of reason on this fine Forum. My early predictions were based on Germany being a bigger factor and Cortes playing. It appears Ken Pom has us around 6-7th. today.

    Playing Memphis and FAU twice is not a good thing. No other AAC teams overwhelm me. Lindys Mag. also picked us 8th. I'm sticking to 5th. For the Shocks. If we play like last game, SIU is also capable of beating us too, but I'm not counting on it.
    Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MadDog View Post

      No doubt Germany has been a huge miss. The expectations for a grad transfer is they should be playing a lot and he’s playing walk on minutes. If you’ve actually seen him play in person you would see he is not very strong, gets easily pushed away from the basket, and just doesn’t play hard. I think it’s interesting that Bob Hull on one of the pregame shows sort of let the cat out of the bag when he stated the coaches were noting he had huge limitations as early as the closed scrimmage with Iowa. I think we’d all like to see him play and contribute but credit to the coaching staff for not playing him.
      People got enamored with his PPG at UTSA without really accounting for the fact that UTSA was bad .. like really really bad.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by forevershockerfan View Post

        Shoxlax, are you predicting an 8th place finish as did Doc? Both of you are voices of reason on this fine Forum. My early predictions were based on Germany being a bigger factor and Cortes playing. It appears Ken Pom has us around 6-7th. today.

        Playing Memphis and FAU twice is not a good thing. No other AAC teams overwhelm me. Lindys Mag. also picked us 8th. I'm sticking to 5th. For the Shocks. If we play like last game, SIU is also capable of beating us too, but I'm not counting on it.
        I believe he just called out you said were were going to finish 5th IN THE VALLEY in your original post.

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        • #19
          Threeve
          Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

            I believe he just called out you said were were going to finish 5th IN THE VALLEY in your original post.
            Yikes! Old School blunder. Thank you Stick. Shoxlax asked a fair question. I got to clean up before pushing send. My sloppy mistake!
            Last edited by forevershockerfan; December 12, 2023, 03:56 PM.
            Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by shock-it-to-me View Post
              With Cortes 18 wins
              without 14 wins
              It's always the guy who can't play who could be the savior of the season, if he could have played.

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              • #22
                With Cortes - 15 - 18

                Without Cortes - 15 - 18

                I am skeptical that him coming in mid-year will result in any extra wins. I think there will be a better CHANCE at a couple extra wins. But I am not confident it will definitely happen. Need to see him on court for a few games first.
                "He called me around noon and was thrilled," Brandt said. "He said he was going to be a Shocker forever." -- RIP Guy, you WILL indeed be a Shocker forever!

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                • #23
                  My thought is any "additional" good player we can add to our 7 man rotation is a good thing. Especially adding a good player at the point guard spot. If and it's a HUGE "if" (looking at you NCAA) we get him on the court...well...that's a good thing.

                  Go Shocks!!!
                  FINAL FOURS:
                  1965, 2013

                  NCAA Tournament:
                  1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, 2021

                  NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

                  AP Poll History of Wichita St:
                  Number of Times Ranked: 157
                  Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
                  Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
                  Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

                  Highest Recent AP Ranking:
                  #3 - Dec. 2017
                  #2 ~ March 2014

                  Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
                  #2 ~ March 2014
                  Finished 2013 Season #4

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BOBB View Post
                    Threeve
                    And how much did you wager?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

                      And how much did you wager?
                      $Texas
                      Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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                      • #26
                        I’m on the low end of 15-18. I will be disappointed if they can’t win EIGHT more games. Not “throw the remote at the TV” disappointed, just bummed that the guys can’t beat many of the quad three and four opponents on the schedule. I predict they will beat a team none of us expect them to while losing to more than one or two teams we should absolutely annihilate. Roller coaster season.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by WuShock16 View Post
                          I said 15-18.

                          We are already at 7 wins. We have 6 games against 200+ NET opponents (as of December 10). If we can't sweep those and snatch a few more to get into the 15-18 range (AT THE VERY LEAST), then we need to shut down the program.
                          Rut-roh.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by WuDrWu View Post

                            Rut-roh.
                            Damnit. How dare you use my own words against me?


                            78-65

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                            • #29
                              It was fun going back and reading through this.
                              Infinity Art Glass - Fantastic local artist and Shocker fan
                              RIP Guy Always A Shocker
                              Carpenter Place - A blessing to many young girls/women
                              ICT S.O.S - Great local cause fighting against human trafficking
                              Wartick Insurance Agency - Saved me money with more coverage.
                              Save Shocker Sports - A rallying cry

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
                                Gonna look at remaining games with their current KP Rank

                                For reference WSU is currently 109 in KP.

                                Likely Losses
                                45 - KSU
                                10 KU
                                34 Memphis
                                20 @FAU
                                34 @ Memphis
                                20 FAU

                                Likely Wins
                                206 ECU
                                300 UTSA
                                196 Tulsa
                                161 Temple
                                229 Rice

                                Toss Ups
                                102 SIU
                                85 UNT
                                161 @ Temple
                                151 @ USF
                                78 SMU
                                191 @ Tulsa
                                206 @ ECU
                                122 @ Charlotte
                                171 UAB
                                104 @ Tulane

                                Basically didn't put any away games in likely wins and instead are either losses or toss ups. For home games, most were toss ups unless it was one of the dominant teams or the extreme bottom dwellers.

                                So looking at the likely wins and losses it would move us to 12-9. So if we just split the toss ups we are at 17-14. So probably more wins that I initially expected when I opened this thread. That's because the AAC is actually well worse than I was thinking.

                                EDIT: Sorry if anyone got tagged by accident due to the forum thinking I was tagging people instead of just typing an away game lol
                                Reality:

                                Likely Losses
                                45 - KSU - L
                                10 KU - L
                                34 Memphis - L
                                20 at FAU - L
                                34 at Memphis - L
                                20 FAU - L

                                Likely Wins
                                206 ECU - L
                                300 UTSA - W
                                196 Tulsa - W
                                161 Temple - L
                                229 Rice - TBD

                                Toss Ups
                                102 SIU - W
                                85 UNT - L
                                161 at Temple - L
                                151 at USF - L
                                78 SMU - W
                                191 at Tulsa - L
                                206 at ECU - L
                                122 at Charlotte - L
                                171 UAB - TBD
                                104 at Tulane - TBD

                                So lost all games I said Likely losses. 2-2 in "Likely wins" with 1 to go. 2-6 in "toss-ups" with 2 to go. Woof.

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