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  • Cotton will have a better wsu career than kyles I think. Kyles was a great backup...about as good as you could hope for. Cotton will probably start as a senior though. I didn't realize his offense was that efficient this year. It makes me all the more intrigued by him. I'll be he is more coachable than kyles was. I remember in the beginning coach said kyles didn't always have his head on straight but was our best athlete. Cotton is more like murry than kyles...a guy who could have started as a freshman. It's just that cotton joined a full lineup where murry joined a rebuild in progress

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    • By the way I do understand that kyles started a lot of games. It was a different kind of feeling though. You never really saw kyles as a starter the same way you saw ragland murry and stutz as starters

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      • FVV won't redshirt.

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        • People do not count on joe mitchel and evan wessel,those guys are gonna be key contributors this year imo.

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          • The thing is that we have two true point guards (Armstead and VanVleet), three combo guards (Williams, Mitchell, and Cotton), and one shooting guard (Baker). Two of those guys aren't going to see significant minutes at the one and two. Moving one of them to the three is unlikely with Early and Wiggins looking to eat up most of those minutes, not to mention Wessel and Green who appear to be deep back-ups.
            Livin the dream

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            • Originally posted by wufan View Post
              The thing is that we have two true point guards (Armstead and VanVleet), three combo guards (Williams, Mitchell, and Cotton), and one shooting guard (Baker). Two of those guys aren't going to see significant minutes at the one and two. Moving one of them to the three is unlikely with Early and Wiggins looking to eat up most of those minutes, not to mention Wessel and Green who appear to be deep back-ups.
              it's amazing how deep we are and even more amazing when you consider the three recruits that haven't made it here yet. Marshall is putting together a juggernaut and I think this team is going to be nasty.

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              • Originally posted by wufan View Post
                The thing is that we have two true point guards (Armstead and VanVleet), three combo guards (Williams, Mitchell, and Cotton), and one shooting guard (Baker). Two of those guys aren't going to see significant minutes at the one and two. Moving one of them to the three is unlikely with Early and Wiggins looking to eat up most of those minutes, not to mention Wessel and Green who appear to be deep back-ups.
                Don't forget Wiggins in that group. If the coaches are successful in having Hall play as much 4 as 5 and with White seeing more time, Early will be able to play more at his favorite position, the 3. This could lead Wiggins taking some SG minutes.

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                • Originally posted by Capitol Shock II View Post
                  it's amazing how deep we are and even more amazing when you consider the three recruits that haven't made it here yet. Marshall is putting together a juggernaut and I think this team is going to be nasty.
                  Two of the three "recruits" won't likely make it on campus.

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                  • And don't forget, only five players are permitted on the floor for play.
                    "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it is about the future."

                    --Niels Bohr







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                    • Originally posted by ShockTalk View Post
                      Don't forget Wiggins in that group. If the coaches are successful in having Hall play as much 4 as 5 and with White seeing more time, Early will be able to play more at his favorite position, the 3. This could lead Wiggins taking some SG minutes.
                      Hall's minutes will probably consist of 75% at the 5. The combo of Chadrack & EO will give us a dynamic presence in the post to compliment Hall.

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                      • All of that is kind of how I see it being possible that there will be some redshirting that we don't expect. Shockmonster, maybe it won't necessarily be van vleet but its always possible. I think that we have 3 true point guards and one who can play combo guard, Williams. To me that leaves wessel on the bench or redshirted which he should have done last year and take your pick between FVV Mitchell Baker and Cotton as guys who can either share a limited number of minutes or possibly redshirt. Baker can't redshirt because he did already. If its absolutely not possible that it could be van vleet, then its either Mitchell or Cotton. Those are older guys. That was my thinking on it being possible with van vleet. It sure would be awesome to have a freshman so good that he knocks a decorated juco with a years experience out of the lineup and cotton is awfully solid

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                        • Originally posted by SHOXMVC View Post
                          Hall's minutes will probably consist of 75% at the 5. The combo of Chadrack & EO will give us a dynamic presence in the post to compliment Hall.
                          I'm looking for Lufile and EO to eat up 25 minutes, so I hope you're wrong. My exception to this is if White is ready to take on 20 PF minutes, then Hall and Early can split up the other 20 and allow Early to play more 3.

                          Hopefully, one of those two situations will work (or a combination of the two).

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                          • Based on nothing other than player experience, I would guess we start Armstead and Williams. Cotton Baker and Mitchell would be the likely subs with Williams rotating out for a breather then back in for Armstead at PG. VanVleet is a variable that may or may not be plugged in somewhere depending on where he is at.

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                            • Mitchell can't redshirt

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                              • Past history dictates Coach Marshall likes to go with seniors at the beginning of the season - it's their jobs to keep.

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