"MVC Preview: McDermott-Led Creighton The Clear Favorite In 2012-13" - SB*Nation

[Aargh]

Echenique goes up against Orukpe and/or Hall
McDermott goes against Hall and/or White
Gibbs goes against Early and/or Wiggins, so Early and Wiggins will probably get a lot of fouls, because otherwise it just wouldn't be "even" or "fair"

[SubGod22]

Depending on the lineups, I could see Early on McD. That would scare the crap out of him I think.

[another shocker]

Depending on the lineups, I could see Early on McD. That would scare the crap out of him I think.

Really? Early will be on McD 1000%

[WSUwatcher]

Kind of hard for Armstead to be All-Valley and VanVleet to be FoY. Tough to split the PG minutes in any way for that to happen, even though I believe VanVleet will be the best Fr in the league.

You mean Fred Van Fleet (!), Aargh?

[Kung Wu]

*** LANGUAGE WARNING ***

In a fictional interview with @Kung Wu:, Coach Marshall was asked about Creighton being chosen as the preseason favorite. Marshall smiled and said "I'm just a crazy nastyass honey badger."

[_kai_]

*** LANGUAGE WARNING ***

In a fictional interview with @Kung Wu, Coach Marshall was asked about Creighton being chosen as the preseason favorite. Marshall smiled and said "I'm just a crazy nastyass honey badger."

Replacing honey badger with Gregg Marshall, and it's pretty hilarious.

"Gregg Marshall has been referred to as the most fearless coach in all of the coaching kingdom. He really doesn't give a ****."

[Kung Wu]

Replacing honey badger with Gregg Marshall, and it's pretty hilarious.

"Gregg Marshall has been referred to as the most fearless coach in all of the coaching kingdom. He really doesn't give a ****."

Exactly!

And you know what ... you replace "bird" with "Jayhawk" and it gets even funnier.

Then replace "jackal" with "NCAA selection committee".

And at the end replace "cobra" with "Bluejay".

LMAO

[ripemupshocks]

Sure were :)

And I'm not sure he's correct in saying that last season was the first time in the Valley's existence that two teams were ranked at the same time. Pretty sure that happened back in the day when the Valley was arguably the number one conference in all of basketball.

It certainly happened in the early to mid sixties with the Shockers and Cincinnati and I'm not too sure but what Bradley may have made it three on occasion.

From the MVC website

Checked with AP. Final season rankings. ONLY LISTED SEASONS WHEN TWO OR MORE MVC TEAMS WERE RANKED.

1949
#2-Oklahoma A&M University, #3-Saint Louis University, #7-Bradley University

1951
#2-Oklahoma A&M, #6-Bradley, #10-St. Louis

1954
#7-Bradley, #10-Oklahoma A&M

1955
#16-Tulsa, #20-St. Louis

1957
#10-St. Louis, #19-Braley

1958
#2-Cincinnati, #14-Bradley

1959
#4-Bradley, #5-Cincy, #12-St. Louis

1960
#1-Cincy, #4-Bradley, #15-St. Louis

1961
#2-Cincy, #6-Bradley

1962
#2-Cincy, #5-Bradley

1963
#1-Cincy, #5-WSU

1969
#11-Drake, #15-Louisville

1970
#5-New Mexico State, #14-Drake

1972
#4-Louisville, #13-Memphis state

2012
#18-WSU, #19-Creighton

Remember, this is AP final season rankings only. First season for AP rankings was 1949.
1949-1960, AP only ranked top 20.
1961-1968, AP only ranked top 10.
1969-1989, AP only ranked top 20.
1990-Present, AP ranked top 25.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

I think the guy said that was the first time in Valley history that two teams were ranked in both major polls at the same time. I don't know if he's including the UPI poll from pre-'93, or if he's including just the current manifestation of the coaches poll. It's a believable factoid if he's looking at the ESPN coaches poll since '93, but I find it hard to believe the Valley never had two teams in both the AP and the UPI back in its heyday.

[SubGod22]

I think the guy said that was the first time in Valley history that two teams were ranked in both major polls at the same time. I don't know if he's including the UPI poll from pre-'93, or if he's including just the current manifestation of the coaches poll. It's a believable factoid if he's looking at the ESPN coaches poll since '93, but I find it hard to believe the Valley never had two teams in both the AP and the UPI back in its heyday.

If that's the case he shouldn't have phrased it as "in the conferences existence" and should have been since the ESPN Coaches Poll began in 'XX.

[1972Shocker]

His statement is certainly true if he would have said the 1st time two teams who are current members of he MVC were ranked.

[Rocky Mountain Shock]

If that's the case he shouldn't have phrased it as "in the conferences existence" and should have been since the ESPN Coaches Poll began in 'XX.

Agreed

[forevershockerfan]

WSU should actually take 2nd this Season but we must not rule out 1st (a long shot) or 3rd (naah). Last Season, we were picked 2nd which is what I predicted. While Illinois State was much better than advertised, losing their solid Coach and Nic Moore will leave a mark. Yes, most of their squad returns but we ended way ahead of them last Season. The question becomes, after losing 5 key Shockers, can we get it together and win our fair share of games? With Marshall at the helm, I say yup, yup, yup. You know what may be our ace in the hole? Armstead, Baker, and Mitchell practicing with us all last Season, not to mention a banner class of very talented recruits incoming. U like?

[ripemupshocks]

I think the guy said that was the first time in Valley history that two teams were ranked in both major polls at the same time. I don't know if he's including the UPI poll from pre-'93, or if he's including just the current manifestation of the coaches poll. It's a believable factoid if he's looking at the ESPN coaches poll since '93, but I find it hard to believe the Valley never had two teams in both the AP and the UPI back in its heyday.

If that's the case he shouldn't have phrased it as "in the conferences existence" and should have been since the ESPN Coaches Poll began in 'XX.

The Coaches' Poll began in the 1950-51 season. It has been published, and or sponsored over the years by UP, UPI, USA Today, CNN, NABC, and ESPN. I went thru it quickly. With the exception of one season, the coaches' poll had all of the same MVC teams ranked (albeit not always at the exact same number) in the same seasons as the AP poll.

[Dave Stalwart]

Kind of hard for Armstead to be All-Valley and VanVleet to be FoY. Tough to split the PG minutes in any way for that to happen, even though I believe VanVleet will be the best Fr in the league.

Oh man. Another great find. You can tell I'm bored and up late when I can pull this thread out of the grave.

I'm seeing some possibility here down the stretch.