USA Today - Marshall made $1.482 Million

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Some of you questioning his salary need to educate yourself on the free market system of which HCGM benefits greatly. Marshall's "value" is being determined every time somebody makes a bid. Right now his fair market value is sitting around 2 million. A BCS school signing him for 1.5mm would be an absolute steal in the eyes of the BCS community. Stop thinking inside your little Wichita market boxes. Gregg has a degree in economics, he is well aware of his market value nationally. The beautiful thing is, Gregg is putting enough weight on the intangibles Wichita has to offer, to keep him here. We are lucky for that.


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[shox1989]

Some of you questioning his salary need to educate yourself on the free market system of which HCGM benefits greatly. Marshall's "value" is being determined every time somebody makes a bid. Right now his fair market value is sitting around 2 million. A BCS school signing him for 1.5mm would be an absolute steal in the eyes of the BCS community. Stop thinking inside your little Wichita market boxes. Gregg has a degree in economics, he is well aware of his market value nationally. The beautiful thing is, Gregg is putting enough weight on the intangibles Wichita has to offer, to keep him here. We are lucky for that.


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I totally agree with you. I just think the market is crazy right now. And the escalation appears to be getting worse. I am afraid in a few years it might take $3 to $5 million a year to keep our coach.

The market really isn't making a lot of sense right now but I am afraid it is being driven by the large amount of money coming from football.

[pinstripers]

At some point, neither he nor anybody else is worth it.

[Rlh04d]

I totally agree with you. I just think the market is crazy right now. And the escalation appears to be getting worse. I am afraid in a few years it might take $3 to $5 million a year to keep our coach.

The market really isn't making a lot of sense right now but I am afraid it is being driven by the large amount of money coming from football.

I don't like the argument that people make about sports salaries. Why is a large salary ridiculous? How much money does WSU make every home game from ticket sales? How much do they make from merchandise? How much did we make from that one game in the NCAA tournament?

I don't see a problem with the guy that is the most responsible for the on-court success (that legally can be paid) making $1.5M when there is so much money on the line already. The issue isn't coaches salaries, it's how much money is being generated by ticket sales, merchandise sales, ad revenue, TV contracts, etc. And the responsibility for all of that, in the end, is on the fans. The way to rein in the contracts of coaches is to stop spending money on programs. As long as the money is being spent, and they have a significant responsibility for it, they deserve to be paid accordingly.

I have no problem with large contracts for successful coaches when their success generates so much money for the schools. I think the difference between playing .500 ball and getting even a one-and-done in the NCAA tournament is worth far more than that extra $1M to the school.

It's the same thing with people that complain about how much sports stars make in the professional leagues, but pay $50-150 a ticket, watch ESPN, buy merchandise, etc. Where do you think that money should go? The poor owners? The money is already there ... give it to the people that are responsible for the success. If a company with 15 employees makes millions, then the guy responsible for that company deserves to make a significant share of that.

Also, regardless of Marshall's future with WSU, the statement is being made for the future that we pay coaches well, and we reward success. If Marshall were to leave, we'd have great coaches lining up to come here, because of all the support coaches and basketball in general are given here, our proven ability to win, and our proven dedication to pay coaches competitively.

[hoopsnut]

At some point, neither he nor anybody else is worth it.

You've got that right. Except I feel that point has come and past.

[SHOXAAC]

I don't like the argument that people make about sports salaries. Why is a large salary ridiculous? How much money does WSU make every home game from ticket sales? How much do they make from merchandise? How much did we make from that one game in the NCAA tournament?

I don't see a problem with the guy that is the most responsible for the on-court success (that legally can be paid) making $1.5M when there is so much money on the line already. The issue isn't coaches salaries, it's how much money is being generated by ticket sales, merchandise sales, ad revenue, TV contracts, etc. And the responsibility for all of that, in the end, is on the fans. The way to rein in the contracts of coaches is to stop spending money on programs. As long as the money is being spent, and they have a significant responsibility for it, they deserve to be paid accordingly.

I have no problem with large contracts for successful coaches when their success generates so much money for the schools. I think the difference between playing .500 ball and getting even a one-and-done in the NCAA tournament is worth far more than that extra $1M to the school.

If WSU is making so much stinking money, why can't they fund football?

I don't think the Shocker money safe is as full as you think.

[_kai_]

Well if I win the 500 million megabucks lotto this week, we won't have to worry about a lack of funding to the athletic department.

[The Mad Hatter]

If WSU is making so much stinking money, why can't they fund football?

I don't think the Shocker money safe is as full as you think.

This argument doesn't logically follow.

The entire premise of the argument made by @Rlh04d: is that a successful coach is worth the money because of the revenue generated for the school. The fact that the coach is worth the salary doesn't mean that the school is making so much additional money that any other expenditure must be justified, even if it was within the same sport. Saying the the school makes enough money because of Marshall to cover his salary in no way means the school makes enough money to cover his salary and a football program. This is especially true because basketball revenue already pays for a lot of other things in the athletic department.

Furthermore, funding a football program would include, you guessed it, hiring a coach for that program. So if you think coaching costs are really out of control, then that alone should explain why a successful coach in one sport isn't generating enough to cover another high cost sport. The entire issue is whether a coach generates enough for the school to justify their salary. Alabama can pay Saban $6 million per year because he brings in enough money to the school that they still come out fine.

Are there times that coaches are paid disproportionate to the revenue they generate (in either direction)? Absolutely, but a salary being large doesn't automatically make it outrageous. WSU has done a very good job operating the athletic department in the black, which is something not a lot of schools can say, so, while there is certainly a point where increasing salaries can't be justified by revenues, we don't appear to have hit that point yet.

[SHOXAAC]

This argument doesn't logically follow.

Alright, who is the knuckle brain that changed the rules on this board to include logic. I want his head now!

[SHOXAAC]

Well if I win the 500 million megabucks lotto this week, we won't have to worry about a lack of funding to the athletic department.

You know the rules...in order to win you have to purchase a ticket. Do your part. lol

[The Mad Hatter]

You know the rules...in order to win you have to purchase a ticket. Do your part. lol

Based on past behavior, you have to wonder if this will be the new Oklahoma State fundraising approach.

[_kai_]

You know the rules...in order to win you have to purchase a ticket. Do your part. lol

I might buy a couple. Heck, I might get a wheelbarrow full of tickets.

[wufan]

Here is a link to Marshall's previous contract as reported by the Eagle:

http://shockerhoops.net/gregg-marshall-contract-finalized/

900K last year.
150K bonus annually.

[another shocker]

Hard to believe that Roy Williams doesn't even make 2 mil per yr, and yet he has won two national titles since '05.

Kryswcezski is bankin' big (4 mil?).

[SHOXAAC]

I might buy a couple. Heck, I might get a wheelbarrow full of tickets.

I see a 12-step program on the horizon...