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  • #76
    Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post

    So everything happening now is Marshall's fault?? LOL! If I am not mistaken, the majority of his salary and increases came from private donors.
    Certainly didn't come from you, unless "posting on Shockernet every 5 minutes" is more lucrative than I thought.
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    • #77
      Originally posted by rjl View Post

      Certainly didn't come from you, unless "posting on Shockernet every 5 minutes" is more lucrative than I thought.
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      • #78
        Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post

        So everything happening now is Marshall's fault?? LOL! If I am not mistaken, the majority of his salary and increases came from private donors.
        Not saying it's all Marshalls fault .. but just because it "came from private donors" doesn't mean it didn't affect the budgets of the university. There is a finite amount of donors. We don't have access to the private details, but it's not crazy to think that "private donations" that were intended for the athletic department were redirected to the fund that paid for Marshall's salary. So while no they didn't directly take money out of the AD coffers in order to pay it, they might have lowered the amount they put in so they could put it towards Marshall.

        I do think that is a very real possibility considering the comments made by Kerry.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by rjl View Post

          Certainly didn't come from you, unless "posting on Shockernet every 5 minutes" is more lucrative than I thought.
          Has nothing to do with the argument he made. The money paying Marshall's salary (or at the very least the increases due to his market value) was specifically earmarked for Marshall's salary. No Marshall, no big money.

          Marshall shares some of the blame for the situation we find ourselves in, but you and some others are barking up the wrong tree here.

          Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

          Not saying it's all Marshalls fault .. but just because it "came from private donors" doesn't mean it didn't affect the budgets of the university. There is a finite amount of donors. We don't have access to the private details, but it's not crazy to think that "private donations" that were intended for the athletic department were redirected to the fund that paid for Marshall's salary. So while no they didn't directly take money out of the AD coffers in order to pay it, they might have lowered the amount they put in so they could put it towards Marshall.
          This is probably a fair point.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

            Not saying it's all Marshalls fault .. but just because it "came from private donors" doesn't mean it didn't affect the budgets of the university. There is a finite amount of donors. We don't have access to the private details, but it's not crazy to think that "private donations" that were intended for the athletic department were redirected to the fund that paid for Marshall's salary. So while no they didn't directly take money out of the AD coffers in order to pay it, they might have lowered the amount they put in so they could put it towards Marshall.

            I do think that is a very real possibility considering the comments made by Kerry.
            So Marshall's salary prevented them from upgrading even $200 to $300 items as Kerry mentioned in the article? They wouldn't even buy that. I find it hard to believe that they couldn't still do some improvements with Marshall's "outrageous" salary had the administration wanted to. His salary was worth every f***ing penny btw.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by MikeKennedyRulZ View Post

              So Marshall's salary prevented them from upgrading even $200 to $300 items as Kerry mentioned in the article? They wouldn't even buy that. I find it hard to believe that they couldn't still do some improvements with Marshall's "outrageous" salary had the administration wanted to. His salary was worth every f***ing penny btw.
              I'm just taking Kerry's comments at face value. I have no more or less inside info than you do. I'm not arguing that he wasn't worth the money. No one here has. I just think it's a little short sighted to think his massive salary didn't negatively affect the other parts of the department .. either directly or indirectly. Why they couldn't come up with 200 or 300 bucks to make things better or better yet, come up with money to help improve the 20 year old weight facility to help recruiting .. who knows. Definitely lack of good money management.
              Last edited by Stickboy46; March 21, 2022, 12:35 PM.

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              • #82
                If being a supporter or fan of this program requires blindly agreeing with every decision made, count me out.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by Maizerunner08 View Post
                  If being a supporter or fan of this program requires blindly agreeing with every decision made, count me out.
                  Yep. I guess the Faithful are the only fans of the program.

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                  • #84
                    It must have been really, really, really bad for Kerry to come out publicly and say what he said. Usually, no matter how bad the situation is, you get the generic comments about being thankful for your time, it was just time for a new challenge, etc.

                    While the situation had obviously been brewing for a while, there must have been something recent that pushed it over the edge.

                    I suppose Taylor could ask President Muma, but I have my doubts that Muma even knows who Kerry Rosenboom is.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

                      I'm just taking Kerry's comments at face value. I have no more or less inside info than you do. I'm not arguing that he wasn't worth the money. No one here has. I just think it's a little short sighted to think his massive salary didn't negatively affect the other parts of the department .. either directly or indirectly. Why they couldn't come up with 200 or 300 bucks to make things better or better yet, come up with money to help improve the 20 year old weight facility to help recruiting .. who knows. Definitely lack of good money management.
                      It's simple. Piss-poor leadership and management.
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                      • #86
                        Personally, I am very concerned about the financial condition of the ICAA. So absent some proactive generosity from the well-heeled portion of the fan base I fear the program will be behind the 8-ball for a long while. Although it doesn't just have to be the well-heeled. You can raise a helpful amount of money from smaller donors if enough are willing to chip in.

                        However, until we have a clear and honest assessment of where the program is, what the administrations' goals and expectations are, and what the administrations' long-term plan is to achieve those goals, it is hard to get too excited about throwing good money after bad. For me, at a minimum ADDB would have to go or be gone and President Muma needs to express a clear vision of how he sees athletics' role at WSU in addition to laying out the assessment, goals and expectations and plan of attack.

                        Considering the lack of transparency we are seeing so far with this administration I am not holding my breath that any of this will be forthcoming.
                        Last edited by 1972Shocker; March 21, 2022, 01:11 PM.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

                          Not saying it's all Marshalls fault .. but just because it "came from private donors" doesn't mean it didn't affect the budgets of the university. There is a finite amount of donors. We don't have access to the private details, but it's not crazy to think that "private donations" that were intended for the athletic department were redirected to the fund that paid for Marshall's salary. So while no they didn't directly take money out of the AD coffers in order to pay it, they might have lowered the amount they put in so they could put it towards Marshall.

                          I do think that is a very real possibility considering the comments made by Kerry.
                          Marshall wasn't mentioned one time in the article. The AD prior to Boatright who told Kerry, "he needed to prove his worth" was (wonder who he was talking about?). In the past Kerry has said that Marshall reinforced the importance of his players getting into the weight room, and got onto them if they didn't. In years past, Marshall was also credited for getting players to go to their academic advisor.

                          The culmination of a lot of years (35 years at WSU), has been eating on Kerry. He's a very loyal person, and a Wichita guy through and through. Probably since we joined the American Conference, this has been eating at him more and more. He probably has been underpaid too, and this has to eat at him.

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                          • #88
                            Sad thing is, 1000s of fans would have donated a couple hundred bucks, if they felt it would help the athletes and success of the programs.

                            Just sad sad sad what this University is doing to their student athletes and fans.

                            I get there are other parts of the university that need time and money, but to completely ignore athletics is ignorant and beyond stupid.

                            Like it or not, athletics gets eyeballs and attention on the university; from regular citizens to prospective students.

                            Seems idiotic not to want to have the best possible representation and to display excellence in athletics to help boost and raise awareness to the other parts of the university.
                            The Assman

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                              Marshall wasn't mentioned one time in the article. The AD prior to Boatright who told Kerry, "he needed to prove his worth" was (wonder who he was talking about?). In the past Kerry has said that Marshall reinforced the importance of his players getting into the weight room, and got onto them if they didn't. In years past, Marshall was also credited for getting players to go to their academic advisor.

                              The culmination of a lot of years (35 years at WSU), has been eating on Kerry. He's a very loyal person, and a Wichita guy through and through. Probably since we joined the American Conference, this has been eating at him more and more. He probably has been underpaid too, and this has to eat at him.
                              Wait, so you're saying fHCGM wanted his players to better themselves physically and mentally, and he got on them when they were being lazy?!?!?

                              What a dick....
                              Last edited by Shock Top; March 21, 2022, 01:24 PM.
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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                                Marshall wasn't mentioned one time in the article. The AD prior to Boatright who told Kerry, "he needed to prove his worth" was (wonder who he was talking about?). In the past Kerry has said that Marshall reinforced the importance of his players getting into the weight room, and got onto them if they didn't. In years past, Marshall was also credited for getting players to go to their academic advisor.

                                The culmination of a lot of years (35 years at WSU), has been eating on Kerry. He's a very loyal person, and a Wichita guy through and through. Probably since we joined the American Conference, this has been eating at him more and more. He probably has been underpaid too, and this has to eat at him.
                                Right .. never once said it was Marshall directly .. or his fault. Kerry has said this has been an issue for a while, even before Marshall, but someone else pointed out that Marshall "was paid by private donations". Just because that's true, doesn't mean his salary didn't lower spending elsewhere. I'm 100% positive Marshall wanted Kerry to have all the things he needed because Kerry's success would drive to Marshall's success.

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