Where do we go from here

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

https://www.kansas.com/sports/colleg...259299004.html

Couple of crazy stats ...

• "The evidence of settling too often from beyond the arc was evident by the team finishing with the highest three-point rate (41.4% of WSU’s shots were three-pointers) in program history. It didn’t help matters that WSU’s 31.2% accuracy on triples was the sixth-worst since the three-point line was introduced in 1986. Per Synergy, WSU ranked No. 295 in the country at catch-and-shoot efficiency, despite generating the 36th-most unguarded looks."

We Need to be searching for a shooter or two. Someone that can consistently hit open shots. That and no post presence are our biggest issues (though Pohto has the ability to get there IMO even if he isn't there yet).

• "it was the first team to average more turnovers than assists since 2009."

Obviously way too many TOs and not enough assists .. but I wonder how the stats would look if we could hit those open shots like in the first stat. Can't get an assist if you can't make the shot or the layup.

• "Synergy’s advanced numbers pull back the curtains even further: WSU ranked No. 282 in its halfcourt offense and No. 247 in its transition offense (despite ranking in the bottom-30 in turnover rate on fast breaks). WSU was also among the worst in the nation at out-of-bounds plays, ranking No. 347 and scoring a paltry 0.60 points per possession. WSU’s 104.4 adjusted efficiency offensive rating on KenPom was the worst since 2009."

This is coaching. We need to shake up the bench if IB is still around. Find some money to get a GOOD assistant with some offensive chops and let him help devise plays. OOB plays are a coaching thing. End of Half plays are a coaching thing. Transition offense is a player and practice thing but derive from the coaching in practice.

That's all great but it was obvious a few games in to the season that these were the issues and they did nothing to correct it. If you can't make adjustments and correct things that are obvious to even the novice basketball fan, what does that say about the coaching staff? I am not trying to be harsh, but come on. There needs to be a specific offensive scheme put in to place and if IB can't do that he needs to hire an assistant coach who can do that. No more free flowing and letting the players decide. That is nonsense.

[Stickboy46]

That's all great but it was obvious a few games in to the season that these were the issues and they did nothing to correct it. If you can't make adjustments and correct things that are obvious to even the novice basketball fan, what does that say about the coaching staff? I am not trying to be harsh, but come on. There needs to be a specific offensive scheme put in to place and if IB can't do that he needs to hire an assistant coach who can do that. No more free flowing and letting the players decide. That is nonsense.

That's fair .. but i'm not sure how you correct getting the 32nd most unguarded shots while being ranked 295th in hitting those .... That's on the players .. and likely something that isn't going to be changed during the middle of a season. There are definitely lots of things that coaching can take blame .. but I think it's key to realize part of it is the players just aren't good shooters. So lets recognize that and get someone in that can do that rather than blanket stamp everything with "coaching problem". Then its up to coaching to make sure THOSE players are the ones getting these open shots.

• The 40.3% shooting percentage is the worst since 1998 and the third-worst shooting season since 1957, although it’s fair to point out it wasn’t far off from the last three seasons: 40.8% in 2019, 40.7% in 2020 and 40.5% in 2021.

The shooting was bad but it's been bad across multiple coaches with a lot of these same players.

[wichshock65]

That's all great but it was obvious a few games in to the season that these were the issues and they did nothing to correct it. If you can't make adjustments and correct things that are obvious to even the novice basketball fan, what does that say about the coaching staff? I am not trying to be harsh, but come on. There needs to be a specific offensive scheme put in to place and if IB can't do that he needs to hire an assistant coach who can do that. No more free flowing and letting the players decide. That is nonsense.

And still has "Retained the confidence" of ADDB.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

You instill and offense and you tell the players if they don't follow it they sit on the bench. And you bench Udeze if he tries to squirm through a triple team rather than work the high / low.

[Stickboy46]

And still has "Retained the confidence" of ADDB.

As much as I hate ADDB .. there is nothing else he can say .. we can't afford to fire him so saying he has lost confidence in him is only going to hurt recruting.

[Stickboy46]

You instill and offense and you tell the players if they don't follow it they sit on the bench. And you bench Udeze if he tries to squirm through a triple team rather than work the high / low.

I get that .. but yet again .. we got the 32nd most unguarded looks. Getting the looks actually wasn't the biggest problem. It was hitting them.

[wichshock65]

As much as I hate ADDB .. there is nothing else he can say .. we can't afford to fire him so saying he has lost confidence in him is only going to hurt recruting.

My gut is that he actually believes it, not saying it out of necessity. Hope I'm wrong.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I get that .. but yet again .. we got the 32nd most unguarded looks. Getting the looks actually wasn't the biggest problem. It was hitting them.

True. Shox do need some makers.

[Stickboy46]

My gut is that he actually believes it, not saying it out of necessity. Hope I'm wrong.

My gut is believing in him is the easiest path which is what he goes for 100% of the time.

[Shocktoberfest]

That's fair .. but i'm not sure how you correct getting the 32nd most unguarded shots while being ranked 295th in hitting those .... That's on the players .. and likely something that isn't going to be changed during the middle of a season. There are definitely lots of things that coaching can take blame .. but I think it's key to realize part of it is the players just aren't good shooters. So lets recognize that and get someone in that can do that rather than blanket stamp everything with "coaching problem". Then its up to coaching to make sure THOSE players are the ones getting these open shots.

• The 40.3% shooting percentage is the worst since 1998 and the third-worst shooting season since 1957, although it’s fair to point out it wasn’t far off from the last three seasons: 40.8% in 2019, 40.7% in 2020 and 40.5% in 2021.

The shooting was bad but it's been bad across multiple coaches with a lot of these same players.

Question: Is jacking up a 30 footer without making a pass considered an unguarded shot? If so, that may be how we arrive at these statistics. We obviously were a poor shooting team this year. But we continued to settle for long-range bombs knowing that we suck at shooting. Oh well. Let's see what happens.

[Shocktoberfest]

Also, it is much easier to get unguarded shots when the other team thinks you can't make them.

[Stickboy46]

Question: Is jacking up a 30 footer without making a pass considered an unguarded shot? If so, that may be how we arrive at these statistics. We obviously were a poor shooting team this year. But we continued to settle for long-range bombs knowing that we suck at shooting. Oh well. Let's see what happens.

TBH .. i don't know the full criteria of what synergy considered an "unguarded shot"

[Stickboy46]

Also, it is much easier to get unguarded shots when the other team thinks you can't make them.

Yup, the part where coaching comes in on this is "how do you get the RIGHT people unguarded shots". Though when you basically have your entire team (outside of Udeze) shooting 29-32% from 3 ... i'm not sure who the "Right" person is.

[Stickboy46]

Ooof .. another crazy stat. Tyson took 224 three point attempts this year. That's more FIELD GOAL attempts (not just 3s) than anyone else on the team outside of Ricky .. who attempted 252 FGs

[pinstripers]

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