The Annual HCIB WSU Future

[Maizerunner08]

Hard not to feel like we're in a pre-Turgeon situation right now.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Hard not to feel like we're in a pre-Turgeon situation right now.

Might be worse honestly.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

Out of curiosity, do we know if that offer was before or after the second time he addressed the allegations?

Not sure.

[Stickboy46]

I only have what so many others have said on the matter but I've always believed GM should have been given the opportunity to just apologize for the incidents, promise never to physically abuse a player again, and move on. I still wish that could somehow happen with IB earning his pay as an ass't over a longer time. Not going to happen, I know, but I can still wish it. Others have experienced worse as players and coaches and survived without such excessive punishments. Just my opinion.

No comment on the content .. but high five on the new paragraph structure .. soooo much more readable.

[Stickboy46]

Based on what I remember of GM's comments the second time he addressed the allegations where he came out swinging that he did nothing wrong, I'm not sure apologizing was something he would have been willing to do. It is possible that he was extended that opportunity and turned it down flat.

If he offered and then was told he wasn't able to apologize, a good lawyer would likely tell him to deny all allegations. Otherwise it would open the door for firing for cause and zero payout.

[ShockerFever]

No comment on the content .. but high five on the new paragraph structure .. soooo much more readable.

I’m surprised you didn’t block him.

[Woodrow]

Interesting ….
https://twitter.com/coachingchanges/...667651073?s=21

sounds like nmsu is interested in GH for Jan’s replacement and if GH doesn’t get it he’s going with Jans and Marshall will be considered… Jeff ******* losing his effing mind on Twitter lol

I find it hard to believe HCGM would consider NMSU. Have you ever been to Las Cruces?

[jcdshocker]

I find it hard to believe HCGM would consider NMSU. Have you ever been to Las Cruces?

No way GM goes to NMSU.

The key for IB is retaining RC4, CP, and KP. If he does he will have earned his stripes for the offseason.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I find it hard to believe HCGM would consider NMSU. Have you ever been to Las Cruces?

No but I've watched them consistently in the tournament and winning a game this year and getting kids in the NBA.

[SHOXAAC]

No way GM goes to NMSU.

The key for IB is retaining RC4, CP, and KP. If he does he will have earned his stripes for the offseason.

Don’t forget JP and QG.

[WstateU]

Don’t forget JP and QG.

[top20shock]

We will be in a total rebuild by then. IB is .500 in his last 30 games. We are definitely in a death spiral at this point.

WSU has to act now starting with the AD or the spiral will be the high point. Doing nothing is program suicide.

[top20shock]

My God! All the successful former coaches and assistants at WSU are more or less giving the Shocker program a collective finger. Can't say I blame them.

DB threw Marshall under the bus to the incredibly inexperienced top level. He did that to save his own butt. In the process he was convincing enough to get a raise by convincing them that Marshall had to go.

Now we've pretty much got Marshall, Heiar, Jans, and Stephenson pi$$ed at the athletic department. Those are the guys who got the donors. Lambo is still around, but he raised his own money too.

Boatright is worse than incompetent. He appears to be willing to seriously damage his department if it means he can keep his job. If Muma has a brain in his head and the cojones to do it, he needs to borrow the athletic department $550,000 from WSU's operating fund and fire Boatright. IB may be a much better coach if he knew he didn't have his guardian angel as his boss, but I doubt it.

I think the current administrative situation is worse than when Armstrong and Perkins torpedoed the football program.

I have sat across the table from Boatright discussing basketball post 3G. He said IB wasn’t experienced enough to be head Coach at WSU. Then he hired him permanently that following spring. I will also add his personal demeanor was that of a weak and defeated man. We need Presidential level intervention and leadership from Muma now.

[shockchic]

Ya gotta wonder if some blackmail was not going on? I know I have thought this may have been an issue.

[WstateU]

Gotta wonder if there's a 'smoking gun' video involving goats...