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    • Originally posted by WuTheOne View Post
      Jackson with the best +/- at 35.
      Where do you find the box scores with the +/-?

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      • There's no logical reason to go back to starting JP and giving him more minutes than Monzy
        Last edited by BostonWu; December 23, 2021, 11:03 AM. Reason: Typo

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        • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post
          There's no logical reason to go back to starting JP and giving him more minutes than Monzy
          No question.

          Start. Monzy.

          Also unrelated, NET rose from 73 to 64. Still not good, but made me feel better after being in the 80s after North Texas game.

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          • Would be hard to blame anyone from Monzy’s family for sending PT texts after they’ve been watching JP play over him just to go out there & get his cardio in.

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            • Originally posted by kcshocker View Post

              Where do you find the box scores with the +/-?
              The GoShockers.com box score often includes it. Here is the link for last night's game:


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              • Originally posted by BostonWu View Post
                There's no logical reason to go back to starting JP and giving him more minutes than Monzy
                Yes there is. It's whatever reason he started in the first place. Blackmail? Nepotism? Recruiting promises? It never made any sense. Ever.

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                • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post

                  The GoShockers.com box score often includes it. Here is the link for last night's game:

                  Note: To get this box score you need to go to the post-game report on a game. Their is a link to a box score in the lower right hand corner of the photo at the top of the article. If you open this box score you will not get the +/- stats.

                  However, if you drop down into the article there is a box of links on the right side. Click on Box Score (PDF) and you will get a box score that does include the +/- stats.

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                  • Originally posted by Shocktoberfest View Post

                    Yes there is. It's whatever reason he started in the first place. Blackmail? Nepotism? Recruiting promises? It never made any sense. Ever.
                    Supposedly it's because he does all the little things well that don't show up in the box score, and he may be better defensively. But there comes a point that those little things are dwarfed by the fact the score generally goes in the right direction when he's on the bench and the wrong direction when he's on the floor.

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                    • sometimes an injury is exactly what's needed to shakeup the starter

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                      • Winning is fun. Winning with more teamwork, better shooting, and seeing some weaknesses addressed and improved, is even more fun to witness. If the Shocks would have won at least one of the two losses with K-State and the Mean Green, this would have made us feel better. However, those 2 teams had stingy defenses which exposed some issues and scoring droughts that better be improved. Some AAC teams will have better Defenses than either of those teams. A road win at E. Carolina and defeating Memphis at home would be a great start. Will the Shocks be up to these tasks? I sure hope so.
                        Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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                        • Great game. Hard to gleen much from it as PV A&M is terrible. Monzy needs to be starting no doubt about that!! Qua had a good game, but again the competition was not good. Jenkins needs more playing time as well.

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                          • Hoping these injuries are short lived. Due to injuries, we went deep to our bench the Season we made the Final 4. That contributed to a deeper bench that really helped in the long run.
                            Shocker basketball will forever be my favorite team in all of sports.

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                            • Originally posted by RoyalShock View Post

                              Supposedly it's because he does all the little things well that don't show up in the box score, and he may be better defensively. But there comes a point that those little things are dwarfed by the fact the score generally goes in the right direction when he's on the bench and the wrong direction when he's on the floor.
                              He does do all the little things well.

                              Top teams can be really good because they have a JP type player doing the unsung heroe stuff. Unfortunately, the other pieces on the team are not good enough on offense to allow WSU that luxury. I am still hoping JP can get pas the mental block that is preventing him from making a bigger offensive impact.

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                              • I thought everyone but Ricky and Jenkins played better…

                                Ricky still refuses to make the simple play…. Jenkins has similar instincts, but gets a pass due to his lack of experience.

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