Missouri Southern State (Exh.) at Wichita State Pregame/Game Discussion

[WstateU]

Is that Dutch for friend?

Sorry…

[pie n eye]

Last year I wished that Craig Porter would be more aggressive on offense. He checked that box last night.

We’ve heard a lot of comments about his athleticism shining now that he’s healthy. He showed it off last night with some tough rebounds, a block and some acrobatic finishes at the rim.

There is a year worth of evidence that says Porter doesn’t turn the ball over very often so I’m going to write off his four TO’s as a fluke until I see otherwise.

Bottom line I’m more encouraged than discouraged by what I saw overall.

[Stickboy46]

Last year I wished that Craig Porter would be more aggressive on offense. He checked that box last night.

We’ve heard a lot of comments about his athleticism shining now that he’s healthy. He showed it off last night with some tough rebounds, a block and some acrobatic finishes at the rim.

There is a year worth of evidence that says Porter doesn’t turn the ball over very often so I’m going to write off his four TO’s as a fluke until I see otherwise.

Bottom line I’m more encouraged than discouraged by what I saw overall.

He had a bad 3-4 minute stretch where most of his mistakes came from. Other than that .. he was ... ok. The problem for him is that Grant isn't just Ok ... Grant is good. There is still hope for Porter, but he's going to have to step up to steal minutes from Grant IMO.

[pinstripers]

I thought I read where he had the ball taken away from him 4 times for his 4 TO's. If so, that's not good.

[pie n eye]

He had a bad 3-4 minute stretch where most of his mistakes came from. Other than that .. he was ... ok. The problem for him is that Grant isn't just Ok ... Grant is good. There is still hope for Porter, but he's going to have to step up to steal minutes from Grant IMO.

Without a doubt Grant looked better. I will be surprised if that impression doesn’t hold up the entire season but it was just one game so there’s no guarantee.

I think Porter is going to play significant minutes this year no matter how good Grant is. The fact that he showed he is capable of providing more of a scoring punch than last year is encouraging to me.

[Stickboy46]

I thought I read where he had the ball taken away from him 4 times for his 4 TO's. If so, that's not good.

feels like 2 were being stripped on drives and 2 he got his pocket picked up top.

[shoxlax]

Why is the National Anthem an afterthought 15 minutes before tipoff now instead of part of the main opening and lead-up to intros? That used to be something unique to us, with the sing-along and whatnot.

Why is game production (not action on the court) still so hilariously poor? Why do we struggle with this so much? How many of you were allowed to do your job in an incompetent and unprofessional manner just because you're new? That don't fly in the real world employment market.

Everything about the WSU game experience is amateur hour, outside of the play on the court.

Okay, legit question (not defending performance because I wasn’t there)-have they cut staff?

Doesn’t excuse past years but I am genuinely curious.

[shoxlax]

Last year I wished that Craig Porter would be more aggressive on offense. He checked that box last night.

We’ve heard a lot of comments about his athleticism shining now that he’s healthy. He showed it off last night with some tough rebounds, a block and some acrobatic finishes at the rim.

There is a year worth of evidence that says Porter doesn’t turn the ball over very often so I’m going to write off his four TO’s as a fluke until I see otherwise.

Bottom line I’m more encouraged than discouraged by what I saw overall.

It’s also not a mutually exclusive discussion. We need both he and Grant to contribute so Tyson doesn’t get worn down like he did last year.

[WstateU]

I thought I read where he had the ball taken away from him 4 times for his 4 TO's. If so, that's not good.

Their 4'-2" guard was a pest...

[Stickboy46]

Their 4'-2" guard was a pest...

Hey .... he was 5 foot to the top of the broom on his head.

[ShockerFever]

Glad to see “in-game production” guy and “I didn’t actually watch the game but here are my five hot takes you should totally believe” guy are in mid season form!

Why is the bar set so low for you?

[wichshock65]

Without a doubt Grant looked better. I will be surprised if that impression doesn’t hold up the entire season but it was just one game so there’s no guarantee.

I think Porter is going to play significant minutes this year no matter how good Grant is. The fact that he showed he is capable of providing more of a scoring punch than last year is encouraging to me.

We had zero assists, 4 TO's and a -2 from our starting point guard against a DII team.

[pie n eye]

We had zero assists, 4 TO's and a -2 from our starting point guard against a DII team.

Ok. So, do you weigh this one game more heavily than the 19 games last year against D1 competition where he turned the ball over once every other game and had a 2.8 A/TO ratio?

Saying “four turnovers is bad” is not insightful analysis.

The point I’m trying to make still stands. I wanted to see him be more aggressive on offense this year and for one night he was and I’m encouraged by that.

[wichshock65]

Ok. So, do you weight this one game more heavily than the 19 games last year against D1 competition where he turned the ball over once every other game and had a 2.8 A/TO ratio?

Saying “four turnovers is bad” is not insightful analysis.

The point I’m trying to make still stands. I wanted to see him be more aggressive on offense this year and for one night he was and I’m encouraged by that.

No, I agree. But for his first game back at 100%, just wasn't a good look. Especially next to the performance of QG. The better Porter is, the better our team is so we need him to succeed. You're right, one game is not an accurate assessment.

[pie n eye]

Why is the bar set so low for you?

I noticed two things about the in game production last night.

1. There was only like one of the goofy time out games that people used to complain about constantly.
2. Ted took several opportunities, many more than in the past, to pump up the crowd coming of time outs.

Both of those things were positives in my opinion.

So far the two complaints I’ve seen are “they didn’t play the National anthem when I THOUGHT THEY SHOULD!” and that the team didn’t come out during the bring ‘em out song.

Newsflash, the team has never come out during the bring em out song.

As far as the anthem goes…that doesn’t seem like a big deal and/or is easily fixable.