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  • #16
    Originally posted by Shockm View Post

    Yes, and I saw on the news a witness that was being interviewed by the SCOTUS on this case who was a woman. They must have included many athletes of non-money making sports as witness'. The witness I saw was talking about their time commitment to their sport as though they were part of the sports who were making millions and paying coaches millions. Not realistic most places.
    I always find it amazing how few fans and now SCOTUS do not know what in fact the NCAA actually is. It's simply a governing body of the member institutions. They have only the power to enforce the rules and regulations given to them by their members. By any measure, it's a democratic organization.

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    • #17
      I looked in my crystal ball and see more court cases.
      "When life hands you lemons, make lemonade." Better have some sugar and water too, or else your lemonade will suck!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Dan View Post

        I think everyone knows that college athletes have to budget a tremendous amount of time to their sport - far more time than they budget for school.
        This is why most athletes who are serious about school, spend the summer in school, and divide the 32 hours or so per year over the entire year.

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        • #19
          Here is what will happen:

          The euro model of developing pros will become the standard. Identify talent early and groom them within their own leagues and systems starting in high school and provide them with education as part of the package.

          Pros can also be created from the college side as well but scholarships are reserved for the late developers or those serious about academics. This is already done with tennis and golf and to some extent college baseball.

          Will it water down quality? Yes, but it may also level the playing field. If the Top 100 recruits every year are in the developmental program, how much of an advantage will the one and done schools have? It also will help the Title IV problem as there shouldn’t be many drawing big licensing dollars.

          Not sure about how football will work, but I would anticipate a new organization to eventually be created to deal with that.




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          • #20
            Then there's this. Shox were recruiting Murphy's son for a while. Not sure if that's the case still.

            Former Creighton assistant coach Preston Murphy received a two-year show-cause penalty and the men's basketball program was put on two years of probation on Tuesday.


            Former Creighton assistant coach Preston Murphy was hit with a two-year show-cause penalty for accepting improper payments, a Level I-aggravated violation, uncovered during the FBI investigation that rocked college basketball, the NCAA Division I Committee on Infractions announced Tuesday.
            While the two-year show-cause for Murphy represents the most severe penalty, the school was also hit with a variety of other penalties, including a 1% reduction in the men's basketball budget and two years of probation. Some of the penalties, such as the loss of one scholarship for the next two years, were self-imposed by the school.

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            • #21
              Away we go...

              Gonzaga Announces “Next Level” NIL Program (msn.com)
              "You Just Want to Slap The #### Outta Some People"

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              • #22
                Looks almost like they are setting up a major centered around athlete management. This could be a good thing that teaches athletes how to take care of money and give them the tools represent themselves, or at least know what good representation looks like. I would expect the Shocker athletic dept to do something similar, maybe in conjunction with the school of business.
                People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov

                Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
                Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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                • #23
                  This will eff everything up. Book it!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ShockerDropOut View Post
                    So does this ruling make the NCAA investigations moot?
                    Wrongly, probably so...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by shoxlax View Post
                      Here is what will happen:

                      The euro model of developing pros will become the standard. Identify talent early and groom them within their own leagues and systems starting in high school and provide them with education as part of the package.

                      Pros can also be created from the college side as well but scholarships are reserved for the late developers or those serious about academics. This is already done with tennis and golf and to some extent college baseball.

                      Will it water down quality? Yes, but it may also level the playing field. If the Top 100 recruits every year are in the developmental program, how much of an advantage will the one and done schools have? It also will help the Title IV problem as there shouldn’t be many drawing big licensing dollars.

                      Not sure about how football will work, but I would anticipate a new organization to eventually be created to deal with that.
                      This is probably the best case scenario, and it could end up even better, than what we've had. I've never cared about the one and done players anyway. A prop erly developed G League (or some type of minor league) will rid the college ranks from some prima donnas who we've never had anyway. All of the players want to have an opportunity to play in the NBA, but those who only care about the NBA or those who are uber talented (like Zyon who had a bidding war going on), and players who destined (a sure thing) to the NBA. have another path besides school. There will still be Fred's, Ron's, Tyson's, Dexter's, Ricky's, Tekele's, Garrett's, Carl Hall's, (the only player I'm not sure about from the past is Cle but maybe), etc. etc. I've only cared about having a quality product on the floor, who cares and wants to win. After the smoke clears, we probably will still have that.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by shock View Post
                        Looks almost like they are setting up a major centered around athlete management. This could be a good thing that teaches athletes how to take care of money and give them the tools represent themselves, or at least know what good representation looks like. I would expect the Shocker athletic dept to do something similar, maybe in conjunction with the school of business.
                        Do you mean like how to be a millionaire, or are you talking about average everyday life skills, such as money management? Did you mean a reputable financial advisement service or a sports agent?

                        Most college athletes aren't going to be millionaires because of athletic ability. Not even at Kentucky. It's slightly -ahem- ambitious to say otherwise.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by shock View Post
                          Looks almost like they are setting up a major centered around athlete management. This could be a good thing that teaches athletes how to take care of money and give them the tools represent themselves, or at least know what good representation looks like. I would expect the Shocker athletic dept to do something similar, maybe in conjunction with the school of business.
                          I think WSU's Center for Entrepreneurship would be able to provide a world class service to the student athletes.
                          "It's amazing to watch Ron slide into that open area, Fred will find him and it's straight cash homie."--HCGM

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                          • #28
                            probably how to set up sports camps and various things they can now legally do as student athletes. The majority of them just wanna be able to teach some kids how to play ball for some extra cash in the offseason.

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                            • #29
                              If they are going this route, there should be no distinction between sports. Scholarships for baseball/softball/track/wbb etc. should have the same benefits as MBB and football.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
                                If they are going this route, there should be no distinction between sports. Scholarships for baseball/softball/track/wbb etc. should have the same benefits as MBB and football.
                                I could see having athletic scholarships that make a distinction and provide services to athletes that other athletic scholarships don’t. I believe it just has to be an equal number of men and women’s scholarships.
                                People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. -Isaac Asimov

                                Originally posted by C0|dB|00ded
                                Who else posts fake **** all day in order to maintain the acrimony? Wingnuts, that's who.

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