What grade do you give for the 2020-21 season?

[SubGod22]

Or those grading low had too high of expectations.

My program expectations are high every year. I don't care who's coaching and whatnot. If you and/or others have low expectations for the program, so be it. I want and expect more.

This team had too much talent to play as poorly as they did much of the year. Yes, they managed to win games playing less than stellar, but no, that doesn't give them an automatic A.

My grading is more like an essay form answer. Sure, you can put the final correct answer (win), but you still have to show you understand and can explain why that's the result (play on the court).

[Stickboy46]

So all wins are an A regardless of how they play? I guess if that's how you grade, an A makes sense.

Personally, I take the whole game into account and not just the final score.

I actually graded them a B due to the losses.

Also the final score encompasses the whole game. Soooo based on the "whole game" for all the games they were an NCAA tourney team and 1st place in the AAC in a year in which they had a ton of hurdles that were out of their control (COVID, Coach resigning etc etc) so an A would be perfectly reasonable if someone wanted to do it.

In a normal year i think a first place AAC finish and a first round NCAA exit is a B level year. Deep run moves it to an A.

[pie n eye]

If you graded this team game by game thru the season, I'd be shocked if anyone would have ended with an A average for this team. Even many of the wins would have been hard to give A's for. The last three games definitely wouldn't have pushed anything towards an A. I understand the B grades and even some of the C grades. This team wasn't impressive in most games during the season. Yes, they won, and that is the goal. But I just see it insanely difficult that you'd end up at an A. This was pretty much a B, C type of team through the majority of the year, despite the wins.

Ok, if that’s your criteria then I can understand why you would hesitate to give an A.

It doesn’t seem like you’re considering any additional factors which I don’t think makes sense especially in a season like this.

Depending on how the off season goes, which players we add/subtract, etc, my expectations will be different next year. The areas in which the team needs to improve to maintain and build upon their success this year seem fairly apparent. I have no reason to doubt the coaching staff recognizes them so we’ll see now what they can do to make the necessary improvements.

[C0|dB|00ded]

Good Lord! Easy A! Had we won a game in the NCAA's... A++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I didn't expect to finish better than the bottom third of the conference when coach got cancelled.

P.S. Coaches didn't only have to win games this season, they had to keep their players from testing positive resulting in forfeits. Solid team management.

[shoxlax]

This is an oddity for me to disagree with you on anything.

It has to be based on where the team is at the beginning of play. Players change, players' experience level changes, coaches can change. Senior leadership or a bunch of newbies? Add to this external situations. Is the league up, down, or normal expectation. Is there anything else that can affect the season (COVID)? The more experienced a team with no changes in coaches, the better they can deal with those external situations.

If we are grading on a curve, to further your point, let’s sit ourselves in a classroom with all of the other schools picked seventh in their conference and who lost their HOF coach within two weeks of the season starting. Pretty sure we would be valedictorian

Now next year the curve will be way different. We will probably be picked in the top four of the league with no turmoil off the court.

[Shockm]

Give this team an A. It really doesn't matter to me. Like Shoxlax said, we did better than most of us thought in our league although our league seemed to suffer

Now the real work begins for this coaching staff. Can we maintain our prestige or do we begin to sink. Next year, we should be ok if most players return but if we don't get one or two really good recruits (let me be clear to the people on here who insinuated that I said Top 50 recruits that I recently clarified at least 100-200), the slow, dripping, downward trend may begin.

[ShockTalk]

So all wins are an A regardless of how they play? I guess if that's how you grade, an A makes sense.

Personally, I take the whole game into account and not just the final score.

My program expectations are high every year. I don't care who's coaching and whatnot. If you and/or others have low expectations for the program, so be it. I want and expect more.

This team had too much talent to play as poorly as they did much of the year. Yes, they managed to win games playing less than stellar, but no, that doesn't give them an automatic A.

My grading is more like an essay form answer. Sure, you can put the final correct answer (win), but you still have to show you understand and can explain why that's the result (play on the court).

Again, the grade was based on my expectations just prior to the first tip-off. Not game by game. Frankly, we won lucky, we won ugly, but we won......a lot more often than I thought we would.

Lost our #1 player to graduation and 3 more of our top 6 players to transfer. This team was gutted.

If you looked close at AG's stats and also concluded that UConn was not going with AG, but a different direction, he was a good, but not great get.

Did you really have the expectation that Mo would do what he did, even after the first part of the season?

DD has been up and down throughout his time here, except for his defense. His offense has been a "box of chocolates".

TrW is a hard working, but undersized 4. He was a low 40's% FG, low 30's 3pt, and low 50's% FT who gets you 7 points and 5 rpg. And he still is.

ETN is our go to guy. Scores 50% more points than anyone else on the team. He had 1 point, 4 PF, and played 27 minutes to a team that made the Dance. If you took away their name, you might have thought we wouldn't even be close to winning that game.

Bilau was a hope for big improvement this season. How did that turn out?

IPBC was the same guy if has always been.

The rest was up to the new, unknown players that we had to recruit quickly due to the mass exit.

We had 6 losses this year. 4 were to NCAA Tournament level teams of which one was by 1 point and another by 3. Another loss to the 1 seed in the NIT that had 4 and 5 star players. We had 1 another loss other than post season bound teams and that was by 1 point. Oh yeah, we hang a conference champ banner.

I, too, like to have high expectations for our teams. This year, plus COVID, was not going to be one of them.

[Shocker_Power]

Or those grading low had too high of expectations.

Or we're taking into account we didn't play a true conference schedule this year.

[ShockerPrez]

If you grade based on expectations, then, yeah, they could get an A every year. Just dont expect much. I just have a set grading system I guess. So, by my grading system, GMs team that lost to Marshall would also get a B. And probably he would get a C from those giving this year's team an A, based on expectations. I'm cool with it. It's all subjective in the end. An A for me would be a combination of Reg season champ, conference tourney champ and NCAA tourney performance. We got 1 out of 3 there, so no A.

I guess if there were extra credit for pulling the team together and taking over for a HOF coach, he could bump up to an A, but I didn't allow for that because I'm an asshole. Being an asshole grader means less students which means less work! :)

[WstateU]

If you grade based on expectations, then, yeah, they could get an A every year. Just dont expect much. I just have a set grading system I guess. So, by my grading system, GMs team that lost to Marshall would also get a B. And probably he would get a C from those giving this year's team an A, based on expectations. I'm cool with it. It's all subjective in the end. An A for me would be a combination of Reg season champ, conference tourney champ and NCAA tourney performance. We got 1 out of 3 there, so no A.

I guess if there were extra credit for pulling the team together and taking over for a HOF coach, he could bump up to an A, but I didn't allow for that because I'm an asshole. Being an asshole grader means less students which means less work! :)

[Singeril]

When grading, one shouldn't grade on expectations but only on results. This is not grading with a curve. If we were grading on expectations, we'd have to go back to the expectations that were in place even before the Marshall bomb. Expectations weren't established just in November. So, in thinking about results...I'll give an "A" * (with asterisk) for the regular season and an "F" for the post-season...it was abysmal. The post season "counts" more than the regular season...but, I'm being charitable and giving an overall "C".

[shock]

Based on my expectations for the program, not based on excuses as to why they could fail, I gave a C. As Doc pointed out at one point, many of the wins were on Hail Marys and could have just as easily gone the other way. The team seemed disciplined off the court but undisciplined on the court. I think they get a passing grade this year, but more work is needed to bring it up to an acceptable standard.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

In a normal year, I wouldn't grade based on expectations. I think we can all agree this past year and basketball season was anything but normal, and that's not to mention the cancel culture coming for FHCGM.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

The regular season Championship is the only thing keeping this from being an F.

Listen to the players. None are giving themselves an A or B.

And the whole “toss in COVID” argument carries no weight. Oral Robert’s dealt with COVID, and they are in the Sweet 16.

Did the team improve and develop as the year went on? No.

Did they win the regular season? Yes.

Did they win the AAC Tournament? No.

Did they win a game in NCAA Tournament? No.

Their goals, not mine.

[pie n eye]

The regular season Championship is the only thing keeping this from being an F.

Listen to the players. None are giving themselves an A or B.

And the whole “toss in COVID” argument carries no weight. Oral Robert’s dealt with COVID, and they are in the Sweet 16.

Did the team improve and develop as the year went on? No.

Did they win the regular season? Yes.

Did they win the AAC Tournament? No.

Did they win a game in NCAA Tournament? No.

Their goals, not mine.

Are any of the players members of the board? No.

Should the fans hold them to a higher standard than they hold themselves? No.

Was the title of this thread, “What grade should the players give themselves”? No.

Did ORU replace 7 in players in the off season or their coach two weeks before the season started? No.

Saying that the regular season championship is the only thing keeping the season from being an F makes it very difficult to take you seriously.