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  • Here are the latest stats for OBPM, DBPM, and BPM.
    Rk Player G OBPM DBPM BPMV
    1 Tyson Etienne 14 6.9 1.1 7.9
    2 Craig Porter 12 3.0 4.3 7.3
    3 Ricky Council IV 13 4.1 0.8 4.9
    4 Clarence Jackson 14 2.7 1.6 4.4
    5 Trey Wade 13 2.3 1.1 3.4
    6 Josaphat Bilau 9 -0.2 3.6 3.4
    7 Alterique Gilbert 14 0.6 1.6 2.2
    8 Trevin Wade 9 -0.6 1.3 0.8
    9 Morris Udeze 14 -1.8 1.8 0.0
    10 Dexter Dennis 14 -1.7 1.0 -0.8
    11 Isaiah Poor Bear-Chandler 14 -1.8 0.1 -1.7
    Provided by CBB at Sports Reference: View Original Table
    Generated 2/5/2021.

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    • Originally posted by Dan View Post
      Seymour and Bilau need minutes tonight
      I was getting that on the ap and through their website about the day you posted. Must have been a problem that day

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      • Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post
        Here are the latest stats for OBPM, DBPM, and BPM.
        Rk Player G OBPM DBPM BPMV
        1 Tyson Etienne 14 6.9 1.1 7.9
        2 Craig Porter 12 3.0 4.3 7.3
        3 Ricky Council IV 13 4.1 0.8 4.9
        4 Clarence Jackson 14 2.7 1.6 4.4
        5 Trey Wade 13 2.3 1.1 3.4
        6 Josaphat Bilau 9 -0.2 3.6 3.4
        7 Alterique Gilbert 14 0.6 1.6 2.2
        8 Trevin Wade 9 -0.6 1.3 0.8
        9 Morris Udeze 14 -1.8 1.8 0.0
        10 Dexter Dennis 14 -1.7 1.0 -0.8
        11 Isaiah Poor Bear-Chandler 14 -1.8 0.1 -1.7
        Provided by CBB at Sports Reference: View Original Table
        Generated 2/5/2021.
        RC4 compared with DD. Oof.
        Kung Wu say, man who read woman like book, prefer braille!

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        • Originally posted by Kung Wu View Post

          RC4 compared with DD. Oof.
          Yeah, DD and MU are among the bottom three of those stats.

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          • Originally posted by 1979Shocker View Post

            Yeah, DD and MU are among the bottom three of those stats.
            Our 2 bigs being 2 of the bottom 3 pretty much confirms what our eyes have been telling us.

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            • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post

              Our 2 bigs being 2 of the bottom 3 pretty much confirms what our eyes have been telling us.
              True but this is looking at the whole season. I would like to see the numbers over the last 5 or 6 games. I think you would see definite improvement from MU

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              • Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post

                True but this is looking at the whole season. I would like to see the numbers over the last 5 or 6 games. I think you would see definite improvement from MU
                If you can get Dave Dahl to do it, you can get even more specific information, such as four of the past 6 games, etc. Who cares about the other 2 games?

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                • Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post

                  Our 2 bigs being 2 of the bottom 3 pretty much confirms what our eyes have been telling us.
                  Assuming the stat in the grids above is the same as what’s described in this link, a 0 actually means “a decent starter or solid sixth man.”
                  • +10.0 is an all-time season (think peak Jordan or LeBron)
                  • +8.0 is an MVP season (think peak Dirk or peak Shaq)
                  • +6.0 is an all-NBA season
                  • +4.0 is in all-star consideration
                  • +2.0 is a good starter
                  • +0.0 is a decent starter or solid 6th man
                  • -2.0 is a bench player (this is also defined as "replacement level")
                  • Below -2.0 are many end-of-bench players
                  If the scale above truly corresponds to the BPM numbers I’m pretty surprised the way it rates Craig Porter.

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                  • Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
                    If the scale above truly corresponds to the BPM numbers I’m pretty surprised the way it rates Craig Porter.
                    I'm not necessarily too surprised. In my opinion, he needs to be playing a lot more. He is a better facilitator and passer than AG, and plays much more in control. And he still gets to the line. He's taken 13 free throws and only 25 shots from the field.
                    "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                    • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                      If you can get Dave Dahl to do it, you can get even more specific information, such as four of the past 6 games, etc. Who cares about the other 2 games?
                      Dave Dahl is one of the nicest people I've ever met, but I hope remarks like these become a meme on this board. It's great material. WuDrWu just dropped this reference in another thread.
                      "In God we trust, all others must bring data." - W. Edwards Deming

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                      • Originally posted by Kel Varnsen View Post

                        I'm not necessarily too surprised. In my opinion, he needs to be playing a lot more. He is a better facilitator and passer than AG, and plays much more in control. And he still gets to the line. He's taken 13 free throws and only 25 shots from the field.
                        I really like Porters overall game. The only wish I have is that he would look to score more. I know we have plenty of other guys who take bad shots but he almost swings too far the other direction.

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                        • Originally posted by Shockm View Post

                          If you can get Dave Dahl to do it, you can get even more specific information, such as four of the past 6 games, etc. Who cares about the other 2 games?
                          Dahl stretches more than that. "In 3 of their last 7 Shockers are shooting over 35% from 3."
                          Wichita State, home of the All-Americans.

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