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Originally posted by WuDrWu View PostTravel works 2 ways, testing works 2 ways.
Logistically speaking, in 2020-2021, it just isn't going to happen.
Remember Duke women's basketball has already quit. I doubt they are the last one that will.
Baseball will be a nightmare too. We might end up with a 1981 type looking schedule, heavy on the KCAC.
I'll be surprised if we play more than 1 or 2 midweek games by the time it's all said and done. And I'm not saying it's "right"....it just is what it is.Last edited by pie n eye; December 28, 2020, 02:41 PM.
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Originally posted by WuDrWu View PostTravel works 2 ways, testing works 2 ways.
Logistically speaking, in 2020-2021, it just isn't going to happen.
Remember Duke women's basketball has already quit. I doubt they are the last one that will.
Baseball will be a nightmare too. We might end up with a 1981 type looking schedule, heavy on the KCAC.
I'll be surprised if we play more than 1 or 2 midweek games by the time it's all said and done. And I'm not saying it's "right"....it just is what it is.
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Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
Opportunity? We are coming off Christmas break and the guys were likely preparing to play ECU as soon as they returned.
Even if finding another opponent on 48 hours notice is as simple as “look at schedule, see no game, call team, game booked” (I doubt it), you have to consider the challenge of scouting a brand new opponent on short notice, developing a game plan, etc etc.
Again, I don’t think scheduling is as simple as you think but I could be wrong.
As far as every downside you just noted... The other team would have the same hurdles. They would have to do a quick scout too. It would be no different than a tournament game. If there are other teams within driving distance that are open ... I don't see why we wouldn't make that call... But I'm not the coach.
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Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
Also I understand the newman thing. Just now all our eggs are in the conference basket. Had an opportunity to maybe get a tournament level team on the schedule, but that's not what the coaches wanted. Which is fine.
Even if finding another opponent on 48 hours notice is as simple as “look at schedule, see no game, call team, game booked” (I doubt it), you have to consider the challenge of scouting a brand new opponent on short notice, developing a game plan, etc etc.
Again, I don’t think scheduling is as simple as you think but I could be wrong.
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Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
This is a stretch.
They are testing the team regularly so whoever had Covid would have tested positive whether it was here or South Dakota. As far as I know they never said definitively who tested positive but considering the number of players who sat out it seems likely it was a player than an infected travel party member.
There’s a lot of mental gymnastics required to reach your conclusion.
Would someone have tested positive? Yes ... Would half the team be considered a "close contact" of said positive if they weren't on a plane that same time? Likely no.
Sorry, logic isn't mental gymnastics ... It's just logic.
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Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
I can name 1... WSU
We don't go... We likely don't have to quarantine half our team because they sat on a plane with an infected travel party member to play in a tournament that was a shell of what we signed up for.
The Missouri and OSU games likely look way different because we would have nearly the entire team for them and maybe even had an extra game before hand if we found something locally.
So no I don't need to argue it ... because it happened
They are testing the team regularly so whoever had Covid would have tested positive whether it was here or South Dakota. As far as I know they never said definitively who tested positive but considering the number of players who sat out it seems likely it was a player rather than an infected travel party member.
There’s a lot of mental gymnastics required to reach your conclusion.Last edited by pie n eye; December 28, 2020, 01:47 PM.
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Travel works 2 ways, testing works 2 ways.
Logistically speaking, in 2020-2021, it just isn't going to happen.
Remember Duke women's basketball has already quit. I doubt they are the last one that will.
Baseball will be a nightmare too. We might end up with a 1981 type looking schedule, heavy on the KCAC.
I'll be surprised if we play more than 1 or 2 midweek games by the time it's all said and done. And I'm not saying it's "right"....it just is what it is.
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Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
Also, did any of the teams who played in the Mower Classic in SD develop Covid issues directly related to the tourney? If not, would be pretty tough to argue that playing that tournament would have been a negative in any way shape or form..
We don't go... We likely don't have to quarantine half our team because they sat on a plane with an infected travel party member to play in a tournament that was a shell of what we signed up for.
The Missouri and OSU games likely look way different because we would have nearly the entire team for them and maybe even had an extra game before hand if we found something locally.
So no I don't need to argue it ... because it happened
Also I understand the newman thing. Just now all our eggs are in the conference basket. Had an opportunity to maybe get a tournament level team on the schedule, but that's not what the coaches wanted. Which is fine.
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Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post
Considering the reschedule was done like 20 min after the cancellation.... Doesn't seem like a lot of effort was put into getting ahold of anyone.
Also, did any of the teams who played in the Mower Classic in SD develop Covid issues directly related to the tourney? If not, would be pretty tough to argue that playing that tournament would have been a negative in any way shape or form.
The teams with the Covid issues picked them up in their home cities where the players are free to live their own lives and make their own decisions unlike road games where their schedules are pre determined and it’s much easier to keep them in a bubble.
Newman won’t help the tourney resume but it’s a game against a team that isn’t WSU. It should be a win and allow us to develop depth. It’s better than no game at all which was a likely outcome considering they had two days to find a replacement for ECU.
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Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
I guess it not so easy to pick up P5 schools or WSU just hoisted up the white flag on this season.
Oh I know. Next you will tell us Windmills cause cancer.
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Originally posted by SB Shock View Post
I guess it not so easy to pick up P5 schools or WSU just hoisted up the white flag on this season.
Last edited by Stickboy46; December 28, 2020, 01:16 PM.
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Hopefully they don't take the "Quick and Easy" approach to the coaching search that they are applying to these reschedules.
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