Wichita State vs. Newman Pregame Discussion

[shoxlax]

Does The Alley have ESPN+?

[WuDrWu]

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[Onegreatracer]

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Would love to get out to a game in person this year. Was thinking about making the trip down to Houston too but definitely missing CKA on game days.

[wichshock65]

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Pyper does

[WuDrWu]

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[ShockingButTrue]

Udeze takes more charges than anyone this side of E. Wesel (J. White doesn't qualify).

Mo and Poor Bear are serviceable at the Pivot, or at least it looked that way in AAC play so far...

[pie n eye]

TBD how it will hold up as the year progresses but Mo is shooting much better from the free throw line this year. I doubt it will stay at 80% but I said before the year I would be happy with 65%+.

I’ve seen him make several nice passes this year and has seemed like less of a black hole in the post in each successive game.

He leads the team in blocks at 1.3/game. That seems pretty good to me.

He may be at or near his ceiling already but there are definitely things he can still improve upon that would make him a more effective and valuable player. Defending without fouling is the most obvious. Rebounding. Improving his ability pivot to his right would instantly make him a more dangerous post threat. I’ve seen him do that a few times lately so it seems it’s something he’s working on.

Until Poor Bear and Bilau prove otherwise I think Udeze is our #1 option at the 5 and I don’t think that’s a problem for our long term prospects.

He’s not THE solution at post but he’s a big part of what could be an effective three headed monster.

[asiseeit]

We already know Udeze is good against weak opponents and not so good against good competition. In my opinion I
don't think much will change as he has already pretty much reached his potential. I believe both PBC and JB have
much more encouraging upsides and neither have begun to reach their potential. The only real value I see in this
game is as a confidence builder for freshmen especially JB. I'd sure hate to see a key player get injured in a game
such as this. Ten minutes max for our normal starting five.

[Shockm]

Trevin's quickness does give him the ability to be a really good guard defender. But we have other good guards (better than him imo), and I just don't see enough minutes available to go past a 10 player rotation. Additionally, Trevin's size (especially combined with AG's small stature) limits the teams flexibility to switch on defense, etc. Trevin would have to play in front of Porter and imo, he isn't as good as CP. Trevin will have to wait his turn the next two years, providing that we don't have injuries to players this year that thrusts him into a major role.

[SB Shock]

I thought that non D1 games received exactly ZERO weight in the NET calculations. In the NCAA Selection Committee’s eyes, it’s like the game didn’t happen. If that’s the case, then we could lose to Newman and it wouldn’t hurt us in the NET (though I’d like to not test that theory).

Non-Div I games will not be in the NET calculations. It will be on the team sheet (they have a place for Non-Div I games), so the selection committee will see the results and it will help frame their "eye test".

[pie n eye]

I’m interested to see how much, if any, progress has been made by Chauncey and Jayden since Emporia State.

How is Trevin’s grasp of the offense progressing? He has potential to impact the defense if he can improve on the other end.

Will Bilaut suit up for this exhibition? I assume he is healthier after a week or so off. Would be nice to see him get some extended run.

Would obviously rather see them face ECU but this game has potential to be a nice primer for the next two huge games. Ole Miss is likely our last opportunity for a “signature” out of conference win. Houston will an interesting measuring stick early in the season.

[WuShock16]

I thought that non D1 games received exactly ZERO weight in the NET calculations. In the NCAA Selection Committee’s eyes, it’s like the game didn’t happen. If that’s the case, then we could lose to Newman and it wouldn’t hurt us in the NET (though I’d like to not test that theory).

The reality is that our geographic location offers few easy options for D1 guarantee opponents on short notice. This was not the time to set up a series. While I wouldn’t have turned it down, had hell frozen over and KU agreed to play, I’d have hated it. They’d get a very watered-down version of CKA and then we’d have gotten AFH at full strength next season.

Since low-major D1s apparently weren’t in plentiful supply, I’m good with Newman. As Doc and I have discussed a few times, in this COVID era, just get games.

[Aargh]

I'd be delighted to have the Selection Committee holding 2 D2 games against us. That would mean we were in the conversation, which is about exactly where we were last year. After losing 4 starters, over half the roster, and the coach, and being in about the same position as a year ago would be a better outcome than should have been expected.

[TheShocktocles]

[QUOTE=Stickboy46;n1269950]

We've actually had really good luck getting Home and Homes with power five teams.

OU OSU
KSU
Missouri
Baylor
Seton Hall
Alabama

Those are just the ones off the top of my head. The 24 hour turn around would be tough, but let's not act like other teams haven't been able to work out good replacement games.

I did not mean to imply that we have never been able to get some power 5 teams to play the shocks, just that it has been very difficult. And if I recall correctly a lot of those Big 12 teams only recently agreed to play the shocks. After VanVleet and Baker were gone. And Weber for KSU has refused to play the shocks for almost his entire tenure. No doubt he received a little pressure when OU and OSU agreed to play. But the only reason he agreed because he felt our program was down because we had all the transfers. last year.. The Missouri game in my opinion is because of the relationship of former Coach Marshall and C Martin.. The reason Alabama scheduled the shocks because they wanted revenge for the Shocks beating them in the game for the NIT Championship. Then they came to Wichita to steal our coach so fuk them. In short power 5 schools only schedule the shocks when they think they have an advantage or have ulterior motives.



As far as your last statement about other schools getting good replacement games, I suggest you read Taylor Eldridge article in today's newspaper. Its very informative.

[SB Shock]

Really good article. Sounds like they knew well before the conference announcement.

Did you catch this statement - "We couldn’t wait two or three days to find out, so we had to get somebody right then.”

Does that mean there was a team interested, but they needed to see if they could move some things around?