Wichita State vs. Newman Pregame Discussion

[Shockm]

I'd like to see Bilau at the 4.

I disagree. He needs to get better and receive more minutes at the 5. That’s where we need him most right now and he needs to improve his defense, rebounding, and knowledge of how he can mesh in the offense. I’d like to see him improve his back to the basket offense ( that’s his biggest weakness and an easy place to improve if he’d work on it).

He he needs to be in a 10 player rotation at the 5 with his minutes increasing as he IMPROVES. Right now, his playing time depends on foul trouble on MU and Poor Bear. Thus far, Bilau hasn’t shown very much except potential and that’s no reason to give him minutes. Some people act like he deserves minutes because he has shown potential and that’s no reason to play him imo. I’d just as soon see Seymour get minutes at the 4 because he’s shown potential too.

The 10 man rotation at this time seems pretty well set.
** 5 Man - No one has taken control of being our best Center yet. Udeze doesn’t rebound good enough, fouls too much, and can’t pass the ball. Poor Bear has shown improvement but he still needs improvement and consistency. I already shared that Bilau needs to improve and he is our 3rd best 5 man option who leaves a lot to be desired.
** 4 - Trey Wade will remain the starter, although his play has not been consistent for a Senior. However, he is solid at most facets of the game. His height can be a bad matchup at times but not usually. However, while he shows flashes of good play, and is solid on defense, rebounding, and knows the offense, he’s shown a tendency to take some bad shots, especially 3 point shots early in the clock. He needs to realize that he’s not the main option. It appears that Ricky Council 4 is our next option and he deserves playing time. In fact, Ricky is pushing to be a starter later this year. He has been really good for a Freshman, but his main weakness so far, by his own admission, he sometimes forgets what he needs to do during a game.
** 3 - Dexter Dennis is our best defensive player and solid at all phases if the game. Hopefully his consistency of shooting will come back. Ricky Council and Porter have shown the ability to back him up.
** 1 and 2 These positions are easy to project. Our best PG is AG and our best 2 is obviously ETN. Porter is an excellent back up at both positions and can also play the 3.

These players deserve to be our 10 man rotation and deserve the minutes at this time.

[1979Shocker]

I'd like to see Bilau at the 4.

Yeah, at least give him some time at both the 4 and 5.

[wichshock65]

My 2 cents worth.

Have no more than 3 normal starters on the floor at one time.

If TvW is at point, ETN and 2 other starters need to be on the floor.

Generally (not always, but at least some):

If Bilau is at the 5, I'd like to see TW and DD and either CP or AG with him.

Play only Seymore or Jenkins, not both at the same time.

Try to keep AG, ETN, DD, and TW less than 25 minutes (prefer no more than 20).

How do you do this? That's what assistants are for. Let iHCIB coach.

I'd like to see Bilau at the 4.

[ShockTalk]

My 2 cents worth.

Have no more than 3 normal starters on the floor at one time.

If TvW is at point, ETN and 2 other starters need to be on the floor.

Generally (not always, but at least some):

If Bilau is at the 5, I'd like to see TW and DD and either CP or AG with him.

Play only Seymore or Jenkins, not both at the same time.

Try to keep AG, ETN, DD, and TW less than 25 minutes (prefer no more than 20).

How do you do this? That's what assistants are for. Let iHCIB coach.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I see value in this game for sure. It's a competition and a good chance to mix in some of the new guys with the vets and try out rotations, sets, and defensive schemes. No down side at all.

[1979Shocker]

I was going to ask how the Newman team compares to Emporia State, but I see they play at Emporia State January 2, so I guess we'll find out then. Plus we should have an idea Wednesday.

[WeWillShockU]

The team absolutely needs this game. More experience playing together is so valuable especially this year.

[Shockm]

I can see value. I hope that IB handles substitutions with the same rotations he would use in a regular game this game to grow our team. Sub remaining 3 scholarship players the last 5 minutes or so of the First Half, and then the final 10-15 minutes of the game, getting the walk ons in with a couple of minutes of the game. Of course, providing our team is playing well, and gets a good lead early. If our regular rotation "sucks", or if we show a lack of playing hard, then I say by the end of the First Half, all substitution patterns are off. Get players in the game who are playing hard, etc.

[Fairgame]

Wish we would not have bothered with Newman. Can’t see the value.

You can't see the value.....? I have question for you, what do you do for a living (your occupation)?

[Fairgame]

[QUOTE=Ted Lasso's Neighbor;n1269807]Looks like they're bumping capacity up to 15% -https://goshockers.com/news/2020/12/28/mens-basketball-shockers-fill-schedule-hole-with-newman.aspx

[pie n eye]

Don't you think it would be best if those minutes came with starters on the floor so he/they could gain confidence that being in the right place at the right time leads to results and the starts can confidence that he/they know what is expected of them. Having all newbies or mostly newbies seems to me kinda chaotic at times and not particularly helpful to maximize learning.

I’m interested to see if the coaching staff approaches this game any differently than the ESU game in regards to playing time for the young guys.

[atlwsu]

Don't you think it would be best if those minutes came with starters on the floor so he/they could gain confidence that being in the right place at the right time leads to results and the starts can confidence that he/they know what is expected of them. Having all newbies or mostly newbies seems to me kinda chaotic at times and not particularly helpful to maximize learning.

[N Crestway]

Opportunity for the freshmen to get the minutes they needed earlier in the season....don't see how anybody could complain.

[Aargh]

Bilau could be the difference between WSU being an NCAA tourney team or an NIT team. Bilau needs time on the court when his time is unlikely to cost a game. Newman is an opportunity to get Council, Jackson, and Bilau significant minutes. Those minutes can be reviewed on film and used for teaching - even against an overmatched opponent.

[Stickboy46]

The recommendation for college basketball was not for the players to break whatever bubble they are in and go home for Christmas. Some adhered to it (and have been playing games during this period) and others like Duke took a break and sent their players home for Christmas. I don't know what WSU did.

WSU players went home for Christmas