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  • 1979Shocker
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    Originally posted by pie n eye View Post
    Doesn’t look like they’ve updated the link with either of the most recent coaches shows. The last one I see is 12/28. Anyone else been able to find the newer shows?
    I haven't been able to and don't have any idea where to look. I've even tried different combinations of what I thought the address would be.

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  • Atxshoxfan
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    Originally posted by shock View Post

    What makes this difficult is we don’t know if we are seeing IB’s influence or another coach’s. And if you ask what the difference would be, do you think IB would pull assistants of their caliber on his own. Billy Kennedy is an anomaly. Would he pull a Lou Gudino from a WAC or MVC school? Would he pump out head coaches?
    I agree. I'm not totally sold yet but I'm swaying toward the purchase. Still has off court stuff to prove before finalizing the sale.

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  • shock
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    Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post
    I want the 3 I mentioned prior. Who wouldn't?

    BUT if we don't get any of those 3 I hope the coach who is hired has the Shocks playing next year like they are playing now (with the same roster) under Coach Brown.

    Call me an optimist, but I do not believe they've played their best ball yet, but they will.
    I don’t think we are far apart on this at all.

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  • ShockingButTrue
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    I want the 3 I mentioned prior. Who wouldn't?

    BUT if we don't get any of those 3 I hope the coach who is hired has the Shocks playing next year like they are playing now (with the same roster) under Coach Brown.

    Call me an optimist, but I do not believe they've played their best ball yet, but they will.
    Last edited by ShockingButTrue; January 19, 2021, 02:20 PM.

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  • shock
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    There might be a lot more attractive options than IB but he also might end up being the chick who keeps talking about band camp.

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  • shock
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    Originally posted by Stickboy46 View Post

    From the way it went around and they way the 'response' was worded, I disagree that Matta is not an option. There was a lot of smoke there, and even the denial was very specifically worded. He said he wasn't interested in taking the job "for this season" back in November.

    Whether an agreement is possible or even if he's the right option is a different question, but I do think there is something there.
    If that’s the case then he is also a tier one coach, and probably the second call.

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  • Stickboy46
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    Originally posted by shock View Post

    I think IB has to be in the discussion from the beginning with Jans. Matta and Beilein are not real options. I think other coaches in the first wave of calls are Wes Miller, Mike Rhoades, Steve Prohm, and maybe Dana Altman. If all of those pass, you chose from Adrian Griffin, IB, and whoever else submits a resume.
    From the way it went around and they way the 'response' was worded, I disagree that Matta is not an option. There was a lot of smoke there, and even the denial was very specifically worded. He said he wasn't interested in taking the job "for this season" back in November.

    Whether an agreement is possible or even if he's the right option is a different question, but I do think there is something there.

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  • shock
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    Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post

    Let's say, per chance, we don't get Jans, Matta or Beilein (I know, but that could happen); who would WSU turn to next? Wardle? Manning? Maybe some assistant from Syracuse? Juco Coach? Montverde's Head Coach?
    I think IB has to be in the discussion from the beginning with Jans. Matta and Beilein are not real options. I think other coaches in the first wave of calls are Wes Miller, Mike Rhoades, Steve Prohm, and maybe Dana Altman. If all of those pass, you chose from Adrian Griffin, IB, and whoever else submits a resume.

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  • ShockingButTrue
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    Originally posted by shock View Post

    Kennedy has good history with Brown and Boatright. Not sure this move happens in any other situation.

    Flip side to that coin- if Lou was named iHC, does Kennedy still come?

    The unknown is what has me uneasy about continuing after this year with iHCIB. I’m not so sure we aren’t seeing a mirage in regards to what IB can do long term.
    Let's say, per chance, we don't get Jans, Matta or Beilein (I know, but that could happen); who would WSU turn to next? Wardle? Manning? Maybe some assistant from Syracuse? Juco Coach? Montverde's Head Coach?

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  • shock
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    Originally posted by ShockingButTrue View Post
    If Brown's the one that got Kennedy on board that is saying a lot.

    Between the 3 of them (plus Waterman, who still remains) they certainly have important contacts of benefit to D1 basketball (i.e. recruiting).
    Kennedy has good history with Brown and Boatright. Not sure this move happens in any other situation.

    Flip side to that coin- if Lou was named iHC, does Kennedy still come?

    The unknown is what has me uneasy about continuing after this year with iHCIB. I’m not so sure we aren’t seeing a mirage in regards to what IB can do long term.

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  • ShockingButTrue
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    Originally posted by SubGod22 View Post
    Kennedy is doing him a favor. Don't expect him to stay around.

    If you want a Kennedy on the bench, Don Kennedy is always an option. He was once a favorite amongst fans to get the Arkansas coaching job a number of years ago.

    Kennedy doesn't have to be on the Shocker bench to do Brown a favor. That's why they're called contacts.

    Are the Razorbacks still in the Southwest Conference? Haven't followed them in looong time.

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  • pie n eye
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    Doesn’t look like they’ve updated the link with either of the most recent coaches shows. The last one I see is 12/28. Anyone else been able to find the newer shows?

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  • SubGod22
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    Kennedy is doing him a favor. Don't expect him to stay around.

    If you want a Kennedy on the bench, Don Kennedy is always an option. He was once a favorite amongst fans to get the Arkansas coaching job a number of years ago.

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  • ShockingButTrue
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    If Brown's the one that got Kennedy on board that is saying a lot.

    Between the 3 of them (plus Waterman, who still remains) they certainly have important contacts of benefit to D1 basketball (i.e. recruiting).

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  • shock
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    Originally posted by Atxshoxfan View Post

    Insurrectionist, patriot...what's the difference? We are all out of line.
    Back to hoops.
    I am being more strongly convinced that IB is a good candidate for HC. I don't have the opportunity to listen to his shows but I see players being developed, good game strategy and great team unity. I just want to see a recruiting cycle to close the sale.
    What makes this difficult is we don’t know if we are seeing IB’s influence or another coach’s. And if you ask what the difference would be, do you think IB would pull assistants of their caliber on his own. Billy Kennedy is an anomaly. Would he pull a Lou Gudino from a WAC or MVC school? Would he pump out head coaches?

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