NCAA Tourney Games In Empty Arenas?

[Stickboy46]

IMO ... we ABSOLUTELY should name the #1 team the National Champion


CONGRATS GONZAGA!!!!!

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[calfan]

I think the tournament should have happened without fans. I feel like the NCAA has gone too far based on what we know now, IMO.

[calfan]

I meant to say the conference tournament should have been played without fans. I think the NCAA Tournament should have been put off for a month and evaluated again at that time to have it or not at that time, IMO.

[rjl]

You didn't answer the question. Are you capable of thinking for yourself?

Based on your posts here, there's something you really need to know. Your opinion does not matter on this subject. Here's the rub: nobody's opinion should matter on this subject.

Science does not arrive at opinion. It arrives at provable, peer-reviewed theories derived through hard data, numbers, statistics, experiments, studies, and results. The absolute disrespect for science that is so prevalent in modern society (and politics) is just gross. More than gross, it's dangerous.

Feel free to be ignorant with your own life. But here, in this case, you're being ignorant with the lives of a big chunk of the population.

[rjl]

If anyone is interested in some common sense:

https://nypost.com/2020/03/08/corona...han-you-think/

As one attorney talking bad about another, the author of this article is a hack.

He's a hack because the numbers he relies upon are the same statistics that have been thrown around on this message board by you and others like you; the same numbers whose meaning and relevance have been easily debunked.

He's also a hack because he's a guy who's made his living--he puts money into his bank account by doing this--on page-clicks and books and talk show appearances trolling pandemics.

He's a hack because he publicly aligns himself and his work with a political party--something science does not do.

So, congrats. The sole support of your argument is a half-ass article written by the Gottlieb of pandemics.

[ShockerPrez]

I think the tournament should have happened without fans. I feel like the NCAA has gone too far based on what we know now, IMO.

What do we know now?

I am not necessarily disagreeing, but wasn't aware of new developments.

[OregonShocker]

What do we know now?

I am not necessarily disagreeing, but wasn't aware of new developments.

None; at least not virology wise. Key phraseology there is "IMO."

[calfan]

The information that I know about is that this virus has killed people in the forty range and that the regular virus has killed thousands of people. Under the NCAA rationality, this past season in Basketball should have never been played.

[SB Shock]

I think the tournament should have happened without fans. I feel like the NCAA has gone too far based on what we know now, IMO.

Problem you have is what happens in either conference tournament or NCAA tournament someone comes up infected? That means you are getting at least 2 team isolated, but probably every team in that specific region because of virus probably alive in the locker room. The CAA had a ref that came up hot after doing a game.

[SB Shock]

The information that I know about is that this virus has killed people in the forty range and that the regular virus has killed thousands of people. Under the NCAA rationality, this past season in Basketball should have never been played.

Italy 12 days ago was sitting at 41 deaths. As of today the death are at 1,266+ and growing by ~200 per day

[OregonShocker]

The information that I know about is that this virus has killed people in the forty range and that the regular virus has killed thousands of people. Under the NCAA rationality, this past season in Basketball should have never been played.

You speak of mortality; what comparison do you have for morbidity between "regular virus" (whatever viral strain you're focusing on) and Sars CoV 2? How about the Ro for each? How about the survival time on fomites? PLEASE leave the experts to decide when it is a pandemic and what to do.

[SHOCKvalue]

Italy 12 days ago was sitting at 41 deaths. As of today the death are at 1,266+ and growing by ~200 per day

This isn't to downplay the situation, or add useless conjecture, but I've seen mentioned several times that places like China and Italy would be expected to have a higher incidence of serious illness and death due to the very high prevalence of smoking. Don't have hard data to offer on that, but it does ring the "well... yeah" bell pretty well in my own train of thought. This a respiratory disease and cigarettes gifting normal people the lungs of a coal miner in his 80's.

[pie n eye]

Problem you have is what happens in either conference tournament or NCAA tournament someone comes up infected? That means you are getting at least 2 team isolated, but probably every team in that specific region because of virus probably alive in the locker room. The CAA had a ref that came up hot after doing a game.

Yup. Probably the only way to make it happen would be to test all players the day before the tourney started then again before they left.

Would also have to develop methods to limit their exposure to people in the hotels.

Given the fact that we don’t have a surplus of tests right now it probably just wasn’t feasible.

It sucks big time. I was looking forward to enjoying the weekend in Ft Worth and the next three weeks watching from my couch but I think this was the right decision. Hopefully this is just a temporary, albeit painful, disruption and we can get back to normal sooner rather than later as a result.

[SB Shock]

This isn't to downplay the situation, or add useless conjecture, but I've seen mentioned several times that places like China and Italy would be expected to have a higher incidence of serious illness and death due to the very high prevalence of smoking. Don't have hard data to offer on that, but it does ring the "well... yeah" bell pretty well in my own train of thought. This a respiratory disease and cigarettes gifting normal people the lungs of a coal miner in his 80's.

I think your conjecture could be correct based on what I read on china. It will be interesting to see what comes out for Italy and ROK.

[pinstripers]

No way in hell do I want the tournament moved to Italy