Sophomore Improvements in Shooting

[ShockerPrez]

Our numbers would look a lot better if we could finish at the rim. FVV, Baker and Shamet could make layups. That helps a lot.

Burton is the only one that seems to be decent at finishing.

But when we get to the basket, its ugly.

I will grant that our Fr and SOs now are being challenged by better defenders, so thats probably worth a few points both ways.

[Maizerunner08]

Our numbers would look a lot better if we could finish at the rim. FVV, Baker and Shamet could make layups. That helps a lot.

Burton is the only one that seems to be decent at finishing.

But when we get to the basket, its ugly.

I will grant that our Fr and SOs now are being challenged by better defenders, so thats probably worth a few points both ways.

I think you hit on a good point. FVV and Baker went up against MVC teams and this squad is up against American squads. Makes it a little harder to do an apples-to-apples comparison. I think there is still value though.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

I think we should run more sets for Etienne but I don't make $3.5 mil.

Agreed, but apparently because JB is older he gets to go all SHJ on everyone without any repercussions.

[Kashman]

Would be curious to see DDs number broken down by first half of the season vs 2nd half. He went through that bad slump that I’m sure is dragging his number lower.

I looked this up earlier. He's right around 39% in conference play

[ShockTalk]

Agreed, but apparently because JB is older he gets to go all SHJ on everyone without any repercussions.

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Older? My understanding is that, age-wise, he is actually younger than ES, GS, ET, DD, and NF. Outside of post players, he has the highest FG% on the team. He is also 2nd behind ET in 3pt% while shooting only 51 3s, the fewest among ES (153), GS (67), ET (139), DD (122, he missed 3 games), TW (55), and while NF has shot only 20 3s (made 5), NF has played only about 25% of the amount of minutes as JB. Where does this "gets to go all SHJ on everyone" come from?

Oh yeah, he's also first in assists on the team.

[revenge_of_shocka_khan]

So there is hope.

Only if we get Stevenson to quit shooting 3's. Sherfield, too. Maybe its me, but it seems like I've watched them miss a lot of 3's down the stretch.

And I agree with Fever about more sets for Etienne.

[Dan]

I don’t have a problem with Stevenson shooting the 3, but he needs to take clues from Dennis - if they’re not falling, try something different.

[ShockerPrez]

If everyone on that list is over 40%, how are we struggling to shoot 30% every game lately? And one of the worst shooting team in the country?

[FadedCrown]

If everyone on that list is over 40%, how are we struggling to shoot 30% every game lately? And one of the worst shooting team in the country?

I am using Effective FG%.

[Kel Varnsen]

If everyone on that list is over 40%, how are we struggling to shoot 30% every game lately? And one of the worst shooting team in the country?

Effective Field Goal percentage, not raw field goal percentage. eFG% takes into account threes being worth more. The equation is:

(2PMade + (3PMade x 1.5) ) / FG Attempts

[ShockerPrez]

Thank you for the clarification.

[proshox]

I think we should run more sets for Etienne but I don't make $3.5 mil.

Absolutely

[proshox]

I think you hit on a good point. FVV and Baker went up against MVC teams and this squad is up against American squads. Makes it a little harder to do an apples-to-apples comparison. I think there is still value though.

Yes. We need to isolate these percentages based on competition level. Baker, VanVleet, etc. shot lower percentages in games against athletic teams.... they just had some monster games in the tournaments that overshadow everything else.

[Shockm]

I think we should run more sets for Etienne but I don't make $3.5 mil.

But the problem with drawing up plays for catch and shoot players such as Tyson is there are only so many different plays a coach can draw up for players who are not able to “get his own shot”. Some day soon, a player with Tyson’s athleticism and shooting skills will be that type of player where he can one on One drive, dish, fake the defender out of his shoes, shoot the pull up mid range, etc. but he isn’t there yet. ES isn’t what we need in those areas either but he probably is ahead of Tyson at this point in their playing careers. We really don’t have that type of player yet or we would have 2-3 more wins.

[MikeKennedyRulZ]

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Older? My understanding is that, age-wise, he is actually younger than ES, GS, ET, DD, and NF. Outside of post players, he has the highest FG% on the team. He is also 2nd behind ET in 3pt% while shooting only 51 3s, the fewest among ES (153), GS (67), ET (139), DD (122, he missed 3 games), TW (55), and while NF has shot only 20 3s (made 5), NF has played only about 25% of the amount of minutes as JB. Where does this "gets to go all SHJ on everyone" come from?

Oh yeah, he's also first in assists on the team.

Some perspective on his numbers in the first 16 games vs. the last 10 games:

First 16 games 3 pt % - 45.5%
Last 10 games 3 pt % - 11.1%

For comparison, Etienne is shooting 40% from three point range over the last 10 games.

Assists per game first 16 games - 3.7
Assists per game last 10 games - 2.8

While he might lead the team in assists, he also leads the team in turnovers.