People concerned that KSU vs WVU may attract a bigger crowd.

[JCole200]

The communicate with Moose better than they do me. I knew the situation, but the only thing I recieved was in with the season tickets.

I, like martymoose, received the letter, and a couple of phone calls. However.. my wife keeps asking me why we had to buy tickets. She never read a letter, or talked to anyone.. she just knows that last year we didn't pay for them, and this year I told her I bought some. I also know a friend of the family who "is a season ticket holder" but she actually, isn't... she has used the same tickets for years and years, but her friend is the one who is actually the season ticket holder.. so she never receives letters or phone calls.. she just pays her friend for 'her' ticket every year.

I do wonder if something similar to this is happening to people who are complaining about it so much and not knowing the situation. I mean, honestly, who reads all the letters and stuff in the package? And are the people complaining the ones who get that info? If you are used to sitting in your corporate seats.. and you aren't the President or maybe the Secretary.. all you know is that you go to every game and you don't have tickets to this game.. and you did last year. It's impossible to talk to every person.

[another shocker]

Just schedule WSU vs Memphis/Louisville already, Mr. Promoter.

[rjl]

I didn't buy my tickets until last week because I wasn't sure whether or not I would be in town. I am sure now, so I did.

UAB is just a bad draw, bottom line. It's not a game that everybody's going to be willing to pay extra for.

[ShockerFever]

the promoter is in an interesting situation.........if he does not discount, he doesn't sell tickets. If he does deep discounts late in the game, he just guarantees that next year people will wait, and wait, and wait to buy.

You need to stop feeding yourself this bullsh*t because it's simply not true. 19SHOCKER76 summed it up perfectly. The reason the tickets were discounted in the first place is because of the poor turnout by the "greatest fanbase on earth" in the first place. A continued slow demand in sales for future games will all but lock out any additional games played at IBA, with ZERO chance of driving in a good opponent, like a Mississippi State or Georgetown, as was mentioned by Marshall in the kansas.com article. So please, by all means, keep feeding yourself that garbage and maybe one day in your fairyland, it'll actually come true.

[ISASO]

It's simple perception of value. If you brought in UNC or UCLA or another powerhouse you could sell a lot of tickets for $60 apiece. UAB commands a value substantially lower than that. Schedule better, sell more high-priced tickets. I'm a season ticket holder and I wasn't going to pay $50 each for our usual 4 tickets, not when the price of season tickets and SASO went up. I would have snagged some cheaper tickets if we were going to be in town. I'll be keeping tabs on the score with my phone. Go Shox.

[ShockerFever]

Here's my take on this:

Nobody wants to see UAB play. It's a terrible draw. At least last year you had some Tulsa fans who wanted to drive up, plus the added benefit of Tulsa being a rival from the past. UAB has neither of those going for them. Just a case of the schedule makers thinking that whatever **** game they put at IBA, as long as WSU is playing, it'll sell out.

Wrong.

WSU fans, at least a majority of the season ticket holders that I know, are notorious for wanting their seats and their parking space that they always have. They don't want to have to fight downtown traffic, especially for a game that many feel should be at Koch in the first place. Take this message board last year, for example. Numerous fans were upset that their seats at IBA weren't nearly as good as they were at Koch. Many of those people are probably boycotting this years game due to that fact. Plus, as others have said, many aren't going because it isn't a part of the season ticket package. Which basically goes back to my previous point about seats and parking.


WSU needs to learn that they need to schedule a team that more than the die-hard college hoops fans have actually heard of. Not UAB. Where the only selling point is, "Haven't played WSU since 2007".

/endrant

As a WSU fan, I have grown increasingly embarrassed about large segments of our fanbase. I have had firsthand experience with our fanbase over the last several weeks, in regards to the UAB game, and I have come to the conclusion that we have one the most whiniest, spoiled fanbases in the entire country. Seriously. The incompetence is up there as well, but I blame that mostly on the horrible lack of communication displayed by our great WSU athletic department, led by our great athletic director Eric Sexton.

UAB was an NCAA team last year and has a better program in the last 10 years than we have. And yet we are dissing them because they aren't Xavier or Gonzaga or Duke?.. Wow. Your middle paragraph, X, pretty much sums up this whiniest, cry baby attitude to a tee. This perceived "downtown traffic" issue is completely exaggerated and just used as a scare tactic by the anti-arena crowd. It's a million times easier to exit a venue in 8 different directions than at the Coliseum or even Koch where 90% of the cars are leaving one direction. And don't even tell me parking is a cinch at Koch. Ya, everybody that's SASO contributors have their pretty little parking places but the 2 exits designated for 2000 vehicles is not what I would call "smooth traffic flow". Season ticket holders bitched because they couldn't choose their seats last year. Now, the same ones are probably bitching this year that they had to go out and buy extra seats this year.. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Whiner Central. If they were true passionate fans, one would figure that a basketball game involving THEIR team, 5 miles away from its original location, would still be an automatic lock to go watch them play. But no. A large segment of the fanbase are CAVEateers and like to be stuck in the rut. This whole "boycotting" thing is doing absolutely NOTHING but harming the team and WSU itself. The sooner the incompetent segment of the population realizes this, the sooner we can move up as a fanbase.

In regards to your last paragraph, I don't think it needs to be explained further that this WAS NOT A GAME PUT ON BY WSU. I guess Kentucky Vocational Tech State at Koch would have been the better, more "enticing" option.

I'm ashamed.

To those of you not members of this segment of the population (which includes the majority of this message board), please disregard.

[cjp27]

As a WSU fan, I have grown increasingly embarrassed about large segments of our fanbase. I have had firsthand experience with our fanbase over the last several weeks, in regards to the UAB game, and I have come to the conclusion that we have one the most whiniest, spoiled fanbases in the entire country. Seriously. The incompetence is up there as well, but I blame that mostly on the horrible lack of communication displayed by our great WSU athletic department, led by our great athletic director Eric Sexton.

UAB was an NCAA team last year and has a better program in the last 10 years than we have. And yet we are dissing them because they aren't Xavier or Gonzaga or Duke?.. Wow. Your middle paragraph, X, pretty much sums up this whiniest, cry baby attitude to a tee. This perceived "downtown traffic" issue is completely exaggerated and just used as a scare tactic by the anti-arena crowd. It's a million times easier to exit a venue in 8 different directions than at the Coliseum or even Koch where 90% of the cars are leaving one direction. And don't even tell me parking is a cinch at Koch. Ya, everybody that's SASO contributors have their pretty little parking places but the 2 exits designated for 2000 vehicles is not what I would call "smooth traffic flow". Season ticket holders bitched because they couldn't choose their seats last year. Now, the same ones are probably bitching this year that they had to go out and buy extra seats this year.. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Whiner Central. If they were true passionate fans, one would figure that a basketball game involving THEIR team, 5 miles away from its original location, would still be an automatic lock to go watch them play. But no. A large segment of the fanbase are CAVEateers and like to be stuck in the rut. This whole "boycotting" thing is doing absolutely NOTHING but harming the team and WSU itself. The sooner the incompetent segment of the population realizes this, the sooner we can move up as a fanbase.

In regards to your last paragraph, I don't think it needs to be explained further that this WAS NOT A GAME PUT ON BY WSU. I guess Kentucky Vocational Tech State at Koch would have been the better, more "enticing" option.

I'm ashamed.

To those of you not members of this segment of the population (which includes the majority of this message board), please disregard.

+1,000,000

[kcshocker11]

Theres a posting on the UAB Rivals board about this

[vancedave56]

+1,000,000

[DPruett2333]

As a WSU fan, I have grown increasingly embarrassed about large segments of our fanbase. I have had firsthand experience with our fanbase over the last several weeks, in regards to the UAB game, and I have come to the conclusion that we have one the most whiniest, spoiled fanbases in the entire country. Seriously. The incompetence is up there as well, but I blame that mostly on the horrible lack of communication displayed by our great WSU athletic department, led by our great athletic director Eric Sexton.

UAB was an NCAA team last year and has a better program in the last 10 years than we have. And yet we are dissing them because they aren't Xavier or Gonzaga or Duke?.. Wow. Your middle paragraph, X, pretty much sums up this whiniest, cry baby attitude to a tee. This perceived "downtown traffic" issue is completely exaggerated and just used as a scare tactic by the anti-arena crowd. It's a million times easier to exit a venue in 8 different directions than at the Coliseum or even Koch where 90% of the cars are leaving one direction. And don't even tell me parking is a cinch at Koch. Ya, everybody that's SASO contributors have their pretty little parking places but the 2 exits designated for 2000 vehicles is not what I would call "smooth traffic flow". Season ticket holders bitched because they couldn't choose their seats last year. Now, the same ones are probably bitching this year that they had to go out and buy extra seats this year.. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Whiner Central. If they were true passionate fans, one would figure that a basketball game involving THEIR team, 5 miles away from its original location, would still be an automatic lock to go watch them play. But no. A large segment of the fanbase are CAVEateers and like to be stuck in the rut. This whole "boycotting" thing is doing absolutely NOTHING but harming the team and WSU itself. The sooner the incompetent segment of the population realizes this, the sooner we can move up as a fanbase.

In regards to your last paragraph, I don't think it needs to be explained further that this WAS NOT A GAME PUT ON BY WSU. I guess Kentucky Vocational Tech State at Koch would have been the better, more "enticing" option.

I'm ashamed.

To those of you not members of this segment of the population (which includes the majority of this message board), please disregard.

+1,000,000 ----- Couldn't have said it better myself.

[another shocker]

Actually, Shocker fans know that UAB has been at least decent since Gene Bartow (UCLA fame) started the program in the late 70's. Always have been since then (I could see WSU blowing it Friday night too, BTW). But what we want is a team with national name recognition outside of the hoops junkies afficianados knowledge.. say, WSU vs St John's.. that's what a game at IBA should be IMO.

[shockmonster]

the promoter is in an interesting situation.........if he does not discount, he doesn't sell tickets. If he does deep discounts late in the game, he just guarantees that next year people will wait, and wait, and wait to buy.

We'll see but next year we may be back to playing Jackson State. If so, don't complain.

[WuDrWu]

Good points by Fever although I might argue he went a bit too harsh in regards to the AD Department, but it's an argument I would probably lose.

I think people are ignoring some possibilities, and I'll give you one: Let's say they sell 11k at an average of $25. That's $275k. I have no idea what you have to rent the place for, but let's say 25k (admittedly I could be way off). So the promoter is out roughly nothing. So what if, armed with a year of experience, the next guy says "Ok, I know how many tickets are going to likely sell here, here and here. My income is $300 (I'll be better the next time around) but I know I can get Gonzaga for $200k sell out and maybe bump sales a bit. So I'll offer WSU maybe 25k and give them a % bonus over $300k."

Nothing says they have to pay WSU a penny. AND IT'S STILL A GOOD DEAL FOR WSU!!!!!!! Yes, money would be nice, but a BIG payday could lure a BUNCH of decent schools.

And still everyone wins. This is a no lose situation, unless the so called "greatest fans" want to continue their pissing into the wind match.

[SB Shock]

Theres a posting on the UAB Rivals board about this

some guy just posted the kansas.com story. Probably more shocker fans have read it on their board than their own fans looking at the traffic on the rivals site. Not a very passionate fanbase.

[19SHOCKER76]

Promoter's notes regarding WSU @ IBA

1. Schedule no less than a top 25 opponent, and make sure WSU wins.

2. Price all tickets @ $15 or less.

3. Reserve mid-court seats for season ticket holders.

4. Sell only the lower bowl.

5. Insist the facility do something about leg room. Suggest they remove chair backs from every other row.

6. Provide free valet parking.

7. Buy a round from the bar for all.

8. Free nachos would be nice.

9. Run plenty of TV ads so everyone knows about the game.

10. Do what you gotta do to get sunshine and no less than 50 degrees on that day.




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