2019-20 National Rankings

[Kel Varnsen]

So it’s better to lose pretty than to win ugly?

Got it. Not sure Marshall or any other coach out there agrees, but got it.

Again, it depends. If you're talking about rating teams' quality, it could mean the team that has more losses is the better team. They would not have a better resume, though.

Would I rather lose than win? Heck no. But I'm not talking about what I would rather do. I'm talking about how we evaluate teams, a completely different aspect. That keeps getting lost in this discussion.

[Cdizzle]

Are you serious? One is a strategy for a particular time and score situation in a game. The other is not.

I thought particular times and score didn't matter? That would imply wins and losses mattered, or *GASP*, a singular head-to-head game meant something. Nah. That's silly. Shox should have been playing the metrics, which all say intentionally fouling an 80% FT shooter is roughly the worst thing you can do.

It would also mean you had to actually apply that logic to fouling. Like the fact that 10+ seconds is a lot of time to start a possession for intentional fouling, or having 3 players with 4 fouls on the court made it risky, or that UConn was getting a lot of offensive rebounds made it risky. Nah. Just blanket-rule, always foul when up 3 at the end of the game.

[Cdizzle]

I’m just so thankful Shockernet had something to argue about today. Looking forward to actually watching a real live basketball game tomorrow.

So long as I am here, you shall always be thankful.

You're welcome.

[wheathead]

I’m just so thankful Shockernet had something to argue about today. Looking forward to actually watching a real live basketball game tomorrow.

[ShockerFever]

I'd rather be 30-0, but if we're only winning by a point or two every game, that may mean the numbers say we're not as good as the 25-5 team.

So it’s better to lose pretty than to win ugly?

Got it. Not sure Marshall or any other coach out there agrees, but got it.

[Cdizzle]

Guess metrics don't count now because they are not on our side, interesting.

I see you said metrics, but I believe you meant metric.

[FadedCrown]

Guess metrics don't count now because they are not on our side, interesting.

[Kel Varnsen]

Just heard a quote on the radio this morning. I thought it ironic.

Scores are for winners and Metrics are for losers.

And yet, for some reason, oddsmakers (who rely on scores for their livelihood) often use these metrics to set lines.

[Kel Varnsen]

Wait wait wait wait wait

Same people saying "you don't play to win by 1 point" and "foul when up 3 with 10 seconds left."

The mind. It bottles.

Are you serious? One is a strategy for a particular time and score situation in a game. The other is not.

[ShockCrazy]

Lots of talk about metrics being excuses for losers. Boy were we losers in 2016 then. It's fascinating.

[Cdizzle]

Wait wait wait wait wait

Same people saying "you don't play to win by 1 point" and "foul when up 3 with 10 seconds left."

The mind. It bottles.

[im4wsu]

Should a team be perceived as a better team if they only won a game by 5 yet they were supposed to win by 15?

You don't play to win by 1 point.

Uh, yeah, you do! Wins are better than losses and 30-point wins tally the same as 1-point wins in the ultimate record.

FIVE losses is NOT BETTER than ZERO losses. No debate. No question. If that math were to be true, cover your head because all the buildinngs and bridges the engineers have built are going to come crashing down!

[Aargh]

Metrics are the insurance policy premiums for excuses when your favored team loses a game.

It just might affect metrics when a visiting team can't touch a KU player in AFH, but KU players can maul opponents there.

[Shockm]

Just heard a quote on the radio this morning. I thought it ironic.

Scores are for winners and Metrics are for losers.

[ShockingButTrue]

Why is critical analysis needed to analyze the results of a game we just saw with our own eyes? Baylor is hardly Evansville.

Who could watch those guards realistically Dominate (too bad it can't be underscored twice) in allen field house, and then come up with "yeah, but..." Oh, wait...

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