We also have to remember that we lost Lomax who decided to stay home,a pure point guard 4-star recruit. That’s a lot of talent we lost at the guard position. Which is one of our big problems
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Originally posted by Shox The Revenant View PostThe Shockers are who we thought they were. I can't believe folks actually predicted them winning this game. 9 newcomers to D1 ball and some of ya'll think this team is NIT worthy? Finishing .500 this year will be a huge victory for the Shox.
:encouragement:"Hank Iba decided he wouldn't play my team anymore. He told me that if he tried to get his team ready to play me, it would upset his team the rest of the season." Gene Johnson, WU Basketball coach, 1928-1933.
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Originally posted by Blackmag View PostWe also have to remember that we lost Lomax who decided to stay home,a pure point guard 4-star recruit. That’s a lot of talent we lost at the guard position. Which is one of our big problems
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Kentucky lost today to a very average Seton Hall. Their 9 player rotation is made up of 4 - 5 star freshmen, 1 - 4 star freshmen (rated #4 SG), 3 - 5 star sophomores, and 1 - 5 star senior transfer from Stanford for a total of 7 years D-I experience.
Think about that when you consider we're playing with our top 11 players made up of 5 freshmen, 1 RS freshman, 1 sophomore with very little experience, 2 first year Jucos, and 2 seniors, one a Juco, all mostly 3 star players with maybe two 4 stars with a total of 5 years D-I experience.
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Originally posted by AndShock View Post
Our weakest link is a senior. We need to start prepping those future teams ASAP
If we're playing for the future, the future needs experience and playing time. They can't do much worse and more importantly they'll need this for the next year, 2, and 3 down the road. With SHJ, there's nothing this year and there's definitely nothing next year. Him being our savior and only option is a **** excuse at this point.
0-9 today. Hey wufan, can I get a FG% update on this guy please?
Now listen, I'm not saying SHJ is the only one to blame for today's results. But those that think we need him to win are full of it. We need TEAM players that run TEAM offense. When SHJ is in, it's Hutchinson JUCO ball. Hutch JUCO ain't beating many teams with a pulse.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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Couldn’t agree more. People around me at the Baylor game were ecstatic about SHJ’s play and couldn’t understand why I was hanging my head when he was going off. All I could say is that it was bad for our team and in response I got “man, the hate is real.”
He will go off against low-level talent, one-on-one play by a 5’ 10” guy works in that environment, just like it works over lunch at the Y, the problem is that it doesn’t grow the team and it gets it into his head that he is a savior and can do that against actual DI talent. He can’t and he shouldn’t and Marshall should under no circumstances accept it.
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I knew this season would be a struggle with all the young and new pieces, but it’s very disappointing to be over 1/4 of the way through the season and not see any noticeable improvement from this group.
There is no way to sugarcoat it. I am trying and trying to put my trust into Marshall and the coaching staff, but there’s honestly not a lot to be excited about at this point in time.
This team will likely go down as the worst offensive team we’ve had since Marshall’s first two years here. I know Marshall’s system is built on defense and rebounding but if you want to win in today’s game you gotta put the ball in the basket. Maybe it will start clicking for these guys soon, but I’m not going to hold my breath based upon what I’ve seen to date.
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Originally posted by Walker View PostThe Eagle had a video of 3G and Austin meeting each other in the hand shake line. I should probably just drop it, but it was interesting to see how fast, cold and awkward it was. I guess you can't really expect anything else considering the circumstances, made worse by the lopsided score.
"Hank Iba decided he wouldn't play my team anymore. He told me that if he tried to get his team ready to play me, it would upset his team the rest of the season." Gene Johnson, WU Basketball coach, 1928-1933.
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Really? I saw love and respect when Austin hugged McDuffie. Any vindictiveness seems, unfortunately so, firmly entrenched amongst some on this board and throughout Shocker Nation.
If Austin Reaves said as much as one word that was derogatory towards WSU in any way, I'd like to see it. Did you expect him to wear a WSU hat on the OU bench? I don't get it. I realize we've been spoiled for a decade or so, but sheesh, some of the responses here.
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Yeah he seemed to be friendly and cordial to McDuffie and a few others, but the handshake at the end was pretty cold but what else could we expect really? Pretty awkward for them both I imagine.
The whole Reeves thing has me a bit bi-polar. I'm super appreciative for his time here. He was definitely one of my favorite players. Then the irrational fan in me feels that it was kind of a dick move to not only leave after a mass exodus, but also choose a team he knew would be facing his former team. Had he stayed here, he could have really helped this team, and probably gone down as a Shocker great. It is what it is though and I get it. He's a kid that has the right to do what he wants.
Super thankful for the guys we have now. While today was another rough one, I know these guys are winners and will be great eventually.
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Originally posted by Blackmag View PostLomax has been starting for a young Memphis team, I’m sure Marshall would take him in a heartbeat. Turnovers are killing us because we don’t have a real point guard.
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In addition the softest front line I have ever seen. Don't get me wrong, we got size but we don't have any men playing in the paint. I am sorry but our front line plays like a pu $$y. When have the shockers under Marshall been out rebounded in a game 52 to 33. When? These guys expect the ball to come to them. They don't go get it. They don't grab with two hands. I watch them fumble ball after ball . I know we're young but they have to play with more passion.
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Originally posted by 1972Shocker View PostThe Shocks did hit 13-15 from the line (83.7%) so they didn't stink at absolutely everything.Deuces Valley.
... No really, deuces.
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We don’t have a great ball-handling team and creating off the dribble is not our strong suit. We have no presence inside to take the pressure off our offense when the 3s aren’t falling. These long offensive droughts will probably be the norm this year till we find someone besides McDuffie who can score consistently
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Not sure just what people are expecting of Reaves. Good or bad terms, he left WSU; he's on the bench with his new teammates; his old team just got blown out by his new team; now he has to go through the handshake line which is mostly a lose-lose situation. Quick, little emotion is probably good and most definitely it was awkward.
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