Kansas' Bill Self calls out NCAA hypocrites for silence on .

[shox1989]

I can't imagine that anyone from the Big 12 - the original "superconference" - is complaining about this realignment issue. There's a legitimate argument to be made that the Big 12 started it all.

That is the irony of this whole thing. I am sure if the ncaa thought they could really do something about this they would.

The formation of 4 big 16 team super conferences is the first step for the 64 biggest schools to break away from the ncaa and hold their own national championships. That way they would get to keep 100% of the money instead of just 90% of it.

[small tyme baller]

I agree with BleedsGold ... ESPN has a large part to do with the ever-increasing greed at the pee wee level all the way to the pros. ESPN makes me sick and I rarely watch unless collegiate athletics are playing.

Other points well taken tho! A lot to discuss on this topic.

[wufan]

I can't imagine that anyone from the Big 12 - the original "superconference" - is complaining about this realignment issue. There's a legitimate argument to be made that the Big 12 started it all.

That is the irony of this whole thing. I am sure if the ncaa thought they could really do something about this they would.

The formation of 4 big 16 team super conferences is the first step for the 64 biggest schools to break away from the ncaa and hold their own national championships. That way they would get to keep 100% of the money instead of just 90% of it.

I'm friends with a Longhorn fan, and other than the fact that he has no idea that WSU is D-I, he's fairly intelligent. He is quite hopefull that the 4 super-conferences form their own league.

[jocoshock]

Perhaps Bill is just upset because he didn't have a good answer to Perry about the possibly of having to make many trips to the East Coast.

You may be more right than you know.

If I were Kentucky, I would be asking all kinds of leading questions about the stability of the Big XII and what KU's future looks like 4 years down the road.

More reasons to play for WSU!

A reporter who covers KState was on 610 Sports in KC today and discussed his conversation with Fonda Ellis after the KSU in-home visit. Per Fonda, the impact of any realignment or B12 breakup will have no impact on Perry's decision.

[ShockTalk]

ESPN is the root of all evil.

Just because the "devil" asks you to sell your soul doesn't mean you have to.

Believe me, if ESPN wasn't around, Texas, SEC, Big 10 or whom ever, would be putting together TV packages that would be worth big $$$$$.

[Aargh]

If you follow the money trail, it's the willingness of Americans to spend more than a product is worth. Shoes is the prime example. Companies who put their brand name in front of us over and over can increase their prices more than the advertising costs and make a profit off of the advertising.

Then the broadcast media increases their advertising rates. Advertisers pay the additional costs and pass those costs on to consumers. That's where the money comes from that's driving all of this. You and I are providing it.

If you wear Nikes or Adidas, you're paying extra for those products and that extra is driving all this. You can avoid paying for all this by buying off-brand shoes, but try to find a car that isn't advertised on college sports.

In the case of cars, we have no option but to pay for this. It's almost like a tax we pay that is redistributed to athletic departments.

[shockrah]

If Bill would be open to scheduling home and home games against another Division 1 school a few hours from Lawrence, I might be more sympathetic. Speaking of hypocrites....

[ShockTalk]

If Bill would be open to scheduling home and home games against another Division 1 school a few hours from Lawrence, I might be more sympathetic. Speaking of hypocrites....

:good:

[Shox21]

If Bill would be open to scheduling home and home games against another Division 1 school a few hours from Lawrence, I might be more sympathetic. Speaking of hypocrites....

I disagree with your describing Self as a hypocrite when referring to the subject of whether or not to schedule WSU. I believe Self would be the first to agree that it is a matter of money, plain and simple. KU makes much more money from out of conference HOME games than away games. Nothing hypocritical about it -- just plain business.

[The Mad Hatter]

If Bill would be open to scheduling home and home games against another Division 1 school a few hours from Lawrence, I might be more sympathetic. Speaking of hypocrites....

I disagree with your describing Self as a hypocrite when referring to the subject of whether or not to schedule WSU. I believe Self would be the first to agree that it is a matter of money, plain and simple. KU makes much more money from out of conference HOME games than away games. Nothing hypocritical about it -- just plain business.

Self not scheduling WSU is the exact same scenario he is criticizing:

1. Taking action that schedules games against geographically distant opponents instead of near ones.

2. Justifying this action on the grounds that it makes the athletic department more money.

3. Still trying to claim that you care about academics even though sacrificing some money and staying within your local region would help athletes miss less class.

[ShockTalk]

If Bill would be open to scheduling home and home games against another Division 1 school a few hours from Lawrence, I might be more sympathetic. Speaking of hypocrites....

I disagree with your describing Self as a hypocrite when referring to the subject of whether or not to schedule WSU. I believe Self would be the first to agree that it is a matter of money, plain and simple. KU makes much more money from out of conference HOME games than away games. Nothing hypocritical about it -- just plain business.

Self not scheduling WSU is the exact same scenario he is criticizing:

1. Taking action that schedules games against geographically distant opponents instead of near ones.

2. Justifying this action on the grounds that it makes the athletic department more money.

3. Still trying to claim that you care about academics even though sacrificing some money and staying within your local region would help athletes miss less class.

I repeat, :good:

[shockrah]

If Bill would be open to scheduling home and home games against another Division 1 school a few hours from Lawrence, I might be more sympathetic. Speaking of hypocrites....

I disagree with your describing Self as a hypocrite when referring to the subject of whether or not to schedule WSU. I believe Self would be the first to agree that it is a matter of money, plain and simple. KU makes much more money from out of conference HOME games than away games. Nothing hypocritical about it -- just plain business.

I really doubt the reason we don't have home and homes against KU is economic. Is KU really hurting that bad for money? Plus, they should have a windfall profit this year now that the ticket skimmers are gone.

[Shox21]

If Bill would be open to scheduling home and home games against another Division 1 school a few hours from Lawrence, I might be more sympathetic. Speaking of hypocrites....

I disagree with your describing Self as a hypocrite when referring to the subject of whether or not to schedule WSU. I believe Self would be the first to agree that it is a matter of money, plain and simple. KU makes much more money from out of conference HOME games than away games. Nothing hypocritical about it -- just plain business.

I really doubt the reason we don't have home and homes against KU is economic. Is KU really hurting that bad for money? Plus, they should have a windfall profit this year now that the ticket skimmers are gone.

I love Wichita State and have been a season ticket holder for quite a number of years (although not as many as some on here). Do you really think that KU is afraid to play WSU? I would venture to say that eight or nine times out of ten, KU would be the victor. Are they really afraid of those one or two times in a decade that they MIGHT lose? I hardly think so.

[tw805]

Then let them win eight times. At least we would be playing. The point here is that KU snobbishly didn't want to play us because we are supposedly beneath them. Now when the real big boys leave KU on the outside looking in, they want to cry about it and rest on contrived excuses they didn't find problematic when justifying their refusal to play us.

[BOBB]

Then let them win eight times. At least we would be playing. The point here is that KU snobbishly didn't want to play us because we are supposedly beneath them. Now when the real big boys leave KU on the outside looking in, they want to cry about it and rest on contrived excuses they didn't find problematic when justifying their refusal to play us.

Plato referred to this as "what goes around, comes around"[/url]