Coaching Rumors.com: Marshall offered OU job

[DUShock]

It makes no sense for him to take the OU job. In my honest opinion, Coach is sick of the "rebuilding" phase, and wants to win, and go to the tournament. No matter what school is being talked about, WSU is his best shot at going to the tournament, the soonest. He has the team he wants, and the players he wants, coming in next year. He is used to going to the tournament, every single year. His work to get WSU back up to tournament level took longer than he hoped, and he's not about to leave the program he's built back up from when Turg left the cupboard bare. He doesn't want to do that all over again, unless it would be NCST and then I think we should all genuinely worry.

Silly rabbitt Trix are for kids... (not saying HCGM's leaving but his work was less than MT's and yet look where he (MT) is today)

[RoyalShock]

The one concern I have about Marshall entertaining an OU offer is the improved prospects of landing Perry Ellis.

Otherwise I don't see the fit.

[The Mad Hatter]

It makes no sense for him to take the OU job. In my honest opinion, Coach is sick of the "rebuilding" phase, and wants to win, and go to the tournament. No matter what school is being talked about, WSU is his best shot at going to the tournament, the soonest. He has the team he wants, and the players he wants, coming in next year. He is used to going to the tournament, every single year. His work to get WSU back up to tournament level took longer than he hoped, and he's not about to leave the program he's built back up from when Turg left the cupboard bare. He doesn't want to do that all over again, unless it would be NCST and then I think we should all genuinely worry.

Silly rabbitt Trix are for kids... (not saying HCGM's leaving but his work was less than MT's and yet look where he (MT) is today)

Yes, but the main reason Mark left was on the advice of his mentor Larry Brown (a man who has job-hopped his entire career), whereas Gregg's mentors are Kresse (who spent 23 years at Charleston) and Cremins (who spent 19 years at Georgia Tech).

I remain unconvinced that Mark would have left were it not for Brown, and the coaches that Gregg respects will not push the mentality that you have to move on to a bigger school the way Brown did to Mark.

[WuDrWu]

Going against my own mantra, Coach Kresse told Gregg as recently as last week, to, and I quote, "Coach where you are loved".

Again, fwiw.

[WSUwatcher]

Yep

Agree completely with your observations about Turgeon and Marshall, Hatter.

[DUShock]

It makes no sense for him to take the OU job. In my honest opinion, Coach is sick of the "rebuilding" phase, and wants to win, and go to the tournament. No matter what school is being talked about, WSU is his best shot at going to the tournament, the soonest. He has the team he wants, and the players he wants, coming in next year. He is used to going to the tournament, every single year. His work to get WSU back up to tournament level took longer than he hoped, and he's not about to leave the program he's built back up from when Turg left the cupboard bare. He doesn't want to do that all over again, unless it would be NCST and then I think we should all genuinely worry.

Silly rabbitt Trix are for kids... (not saying HCGM's leaving but his work was less than MT's and yet look where he (MT) is today)

Yes, but the main reason Mark left was on the advice of his mentor Larry Brown (a man who has job-hopped his entire career), whereas Gregg's mentors are Kresse (who spent 23 years at Charleston) and Cremins (who spent 19 years at Georgia Tech).

I remain unconvinced that Mark would have left were it not for Brown, and the coaches that Gregg respects will not push the mentality that you have to move on to a bigger school the way Brown did to Mark.

I hope you're correct Hatter, I truly do.

Go Shocks!!!!

[DaShox]

Gregg is sitting on a gold mine in City League talent. If he mines that, even without Ellis, Gregg could have an elite job in three or four years. Not 9th place NC State or last place OU, Mizzou etc. I mean elite with a capital E.


FYI....from the Tuscaloosa News: Grant Pay Raise Likely

http://alabama.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1206545

[Snapshot9]

I expect Monday to be filled with all kinds of rumors about our coach, after he gets back from New York.

[Kung Wu]

Monday!? I am developing a heart condition over all the rumors that are already circulating.

[Shocktoberfest]

My gut tells me that if 3G is to leave we will know prior to Monday.

[_kai_]

It makes no sense for him to take the OU job. In my honest opinion, Coach is sick of the "rebuilding" phase, and wants to win, and go to the tournament. No matter what school is being talked about, WSU is his best shot at going to the tournament, the soonest. He has the team he wants, and the players he wants, coming in next year. He is used to going to the tournament, every single year. His work to get WSU back up to tournament level took longer than he hoped, and he's not about to leave the program he's built back up from when Turg left the cupboard bare. He doesn't want to do that all over again, unless it would be NCST and then I think we should all genuinely worry.

Silly rabbitt Trix are for kids... (not saying HCGM's leaving but his work was less than MT's and yet look where he (MT) is today)

Yes, but the main reason Mark left was on the advice of his mentor Larry Brown (a man who has job-hopped his entire career), whereas Gregg's mentors are Kresse (who spent 23 years at Charleston) and Cremins (who spent 19 years at Georgia Tech).

I remain unconvinced that Mark would have left were it not for Brown, and the coaches that Gregg respects will not push the mentality that you have to move on to a bigger school the way Brown did to Mark.

Plus Turg had this perception that coaching at WSU was a hindrance to recruit nationally, and for the best players. I think Gregg does not have this perception, and feels that WSU has the atmosphere of a major university program, for example his quote about looking at our budget, how we travel, etc etc.

Comparing Turg's situation to Gregg's is pretty hard to do, as I think Gregg's character as a man is much higher than Turg's. Also thats a very good point to make about who their mentor's were. It shows that Gregg is from the school of thought that you stick with a program that loves you, and aside from some of the posters who here who complain about his X and O ability, I think the majority of the fan base can't find much negativity to say or point out about Gregg.

I would love to have him be our coach for 20, 25, 30 more years. I think having longevity at the coaching position only strengthens a university's ability to achieve a high level of playing.

[shockar25]

It makes no sense for him to take the OU job. In my honest opinion, Coach is sick of the "rebuilding" phase, and wants to win, and go to the tournament. No matter what school is being talked about, WSU is his best shot at going to the tournament, the soonest. He has the team he wants, and the players he wants, coming in next year. He is used to going to the tournament, every single year. His work to get WSU back up to tournament level took longer than he hoped, and he's not about to leave the program he's built back up from when Turg left the cupboard bare. He doesn't want to do that all over again, unless it would be NCST and then I think we should all genuinely worry.

Silly rabbitt Trix are for kids... (not saying HCGM's leaving but his work was less than MT's and yet look where he (MT) is today)

Yes, but the main reason Mark left was on the advice of his mentor Larry Brown (a man who has job-hopped his entire career), whereas Gregg's mentors are Kresse (who spent 23 years at Charleston) and Cremins (who spent 19 years at Georgia Tech).

I remain unconvinced that Mark would have left were it not for Brown, and the coaches that Gregg respects will not push the mentality that you have to move on to a bigger school the way Brown did to Mark.

Plus Turg had this perception that coaching at WSU was a hindrance to recruit nationally, and for the best players. I think Gregg does not have this perception, and feels that WSU has the atmosphere of a major university program, for example his quote about looking at our budget, how we travel, etc etc.

Comparing Turg's situation to Gregg's is pretty hard to do, as I think Gregg's character as a man is much higher than Turg's. Also thats a very good point to make about who their mentor's were. It shows that Gregg is from the school of thought that you stick with a program that loves you, and aside from some of the posters who here who complain about his X and O ability, I think the majority of the fan base can't find much negativity to say or point out about Gregg.

I would love to have him be our coach for 20, 25, 30 more years. I think having longevity at the coaching position only strengthens a university's ability to achieve a high level of playing.

I disagree. Mark's philosophy and perception about mid-majors and WSU has nothing to do with his character as a man. He just has a different opinion. Both coaches run pretty clean programs where getting a decent education is highly valued--perhaps at WSU a little more than at A&M but that's debatable. I'd just say they are different and just leave it at that.

I do agree that Gregg doesn't feel as hindered in recruiting here as Mark seemed to.

Gregg leaving is inevitable. Not necessarily this year, but it's going to happen. I'd like to think he would wait one more year until Garrett, Toure and David are all seniors along with Joe, but who knows....

[_kai_]

It makes no sense for him to take the OU job. In my honest opinion, Coach is sick of the "rebuilding" phase, and wants to win, and go to the tournament. No matter what school is being talked about, WSU is his best shot at going to the tournament, the soonest. He has the team he wants, and the players he wants, coming in next year. He is used to going to the tournament, every single year. His work to get WSU back up to tournament level took longer than he hoped, and he's not about to leave the program he's built back up from when Turg left the cupboard bare. He doesn't want to do that all over again, unless it would be NCST and then I think we should all genuinely worry.

Silly rabbitt Trix are for kids... (not saying HCGM's leaving but his work was less than MT's and yet look where he (MT) is today)

Yes, but the main reason Mark left was on the advice of his mentor Larry Brown (a man who has job-hopped his entire career), whereas Gregg's mentors are Kresse (who spent 23 years at Charleston) and Cremins (who spent 19 years at Georgia Tech).

I remain unconvinced that Mark would have left were it not for Brown, and the coaches that Gregg respects will not push the mentality that you have to move on to a bigger school the way Brown did to Mark.

Plus Turg had this perception that coaching at WSU was a hindrance to recruit nationally, and for the best players. I think Gregg does not have this perception, and feels that WSU has the atmosphere of a major university program, for example his quote about looking at our budget, how we travel, etc etc.

Comparing Turg's situation to Gregg's is pretty hard to do, as I think Gregg's character as a man is much higher than Turg's. Also thats a very good point to make about who their mentor's were. It shows that Gregg is from the school of thought that you stick with a program that loves you, and aside from some of the posters who here who complain about his X and O ability, I think the majority of the fan base can't find much negativity to say or point out about Gregg.

I would love to have him be our coach for 20, 25, 30 more years. I think having longevity at the coaching position only strengthens a university's ability to achieve a high level of playing.

I disagree. Mark's philosophy and perception about mid-majors and WSU has nothing to do with his character as a man. He just has a different opinion. Both coaches run pretty clean programs where getting a decent education is highly valued--perhaps at WSU a little more than at A&M but that's debatable. I'd just say they are different and just leave it at that.

I do agree that Gregg doesn't feel as hindered in recruiting here as Mark seemed to.

Gregg leaving is inevitable. Not necessarily this year, but it's going to happen. I'd like to think he would wait one more year until Garrett, Toure and David are all seniors along with Joe, but who knows....

I don't know, I always got the vibe from Turg that he was a jerk to everyone, where Gregg seems to just be a jerk to opponents. I ALWAYS felt that this was just a place holder in Turg's career. I don't feel that way with Gregg. I really think that if the University shows committment to his salary, and he can get over the NCAA hump and actually get into the tournament here, that he will stick around. I think the only 2 reasons he would leave here, would be either for his dream job, but only if that comes up before he consistently get into the tournament with WSU. I think the other situation would be part 2 of the dream job thing, that if he feels that its too hard to get into the tournament year in and year out with the Valley, that if he had WSU in any other conference he could get them in the tournament as an at large. I really don't think he leaves in the next couple years, I just don't see it.

But then again some people didn't see Turg leaving exactly when he did.

[AndShock]

I feel like Turgeon and Marshall both love this program. Turgeon might have viewed us as "lower" than BCS schools, but I don't think he meant it as a slap in the face. Someone posted a video a couple of weeks ago from Turgeon's press conference at A&M where he was in tears about leaving WSU. We have been very lucky that both of those coaches really cared about us succeeding and they both had a heavy interest in our program. I followed Cuonzo's transition from SWOMO to Tennessee and he's an example of someone who couldn't give two ----s about his program. He cared about winning, but he didn't care about SWOMO at all and viewed them as a stepping stone from the day he got there. Turgeon and Marshall aren't like that at all and it's fairly easy to tell the difference.

[RoyalShock]

FWIW, "Steve" in the Shockwaves chat just said he heard that Marshall signed a contract extension within the last 48 hours.