Scheduling up

[60Shock]

We all know scheduling up is impossible. I've been told several times that a mid major CAN NOT schedule anybody descent without bracket busters. Sorry

Well there are a few schools that do so and they do it well.

So do we just throw up our hands and do nothing? Are we already waving the white flag and giving up? We might as well, because if we don't take it upon ourselves to schedule up, it is obvious that few in this conference are going to do so. And the likelihood is that the MVC will in the future almost
certainly be a one bid conference.

There are reportedly a number of BCS schools (Colorado for just one one) whose current OC schedules are weak and may very well keep them from an at-large NCAA bid. They need to schedule up just as we do.

Based on projections for the next two years, the Shocks should have a decent RPI, but will be beatable both at home and on the road.

Now, at least to me, seems to be the perfect time for us to at least try and schedule a series of home and away games with decent BCS teams who are also looking to do the same.

There are 10,500 of you outstanding fans in Wichita who are footing the bill for the majority of WSU sports. You, together, exhibit a tremendous amount of power. You pay the bills, and most importantly, the salaries of the AD, coaches, and their entire staffs. Put a petition together complaining that you are tired of paying your hard earned money to play pansies and you want better teams scheduled. If enough people complain, and complain loudly, it is almost a certainty that there will be a vastly increased effort made to bring about changes.

[Shox21]

A lot of MVC schools have what passes for a football team. Therein lies the cash drain for those universities. They say they can't afford to give up several home games because of the revenue they generate. They only generate revenue IF YOU GET PEOPLE TO COME AND PAY THE PRICE OF THE TICKET. I've seen their attendance figures. Why not go on the road and get paid to do it by a BCS school? You may even get a win once in awhile, and even if you don't you have the boost to your RPI for just scheduling the dang game (along with the paycheck you have in your hand). Someone please explain to me why that is so improbable.

In WSU's case, I could see the hesitation because we probably make more for a home game (even a lously one) than we would get as a paycheck for a road game. This doesn't hold true for more than half of the MVC. If we could weather the financial sting from losing the revenue from a couple of crappy home games for a few years, get into the NCAA and make a run, the benefit would be so much more than what we would lose.

[RoyalShock]

I recall at the start of the year how taboo it was to critique scheduling. It was aggressively stated by most that such criticism was a de facto questioning of the staff's capabilities in that area, and any shortcomings were unequivocally not the fault of HCGM or assistants.

Basically, we have no control whatsoever to improve our schedule. If it were possible, we would have done it, because there is no way that we achieved anything less than the perfect schedule available under the circumstances. This is how the logic went.

We, as in the WSU athletic department, need to be willing to sacrifice a "buy" game or two (Marshall says he wants four buy games) in order to play better teams. That's the only way it's going to happen.

But even so, there wasn't much wrong with our non-conf SOS. The problem was we didn't win.

[Shox21]

I recall at the start of the year how taboo it was to critique scheduling. It was aggressively stated by most that such criticism was a de facto questioning of the staff's capabilities in that area, and any shortcomings were unequivocally not the fault of HCGM or assistants.

Basically, we have no control whatsoever to improve our schedule. If it were possible, we would have done it, because there is no way that we achieved anything less than the perfect schedule available under the circumstances. This is how the logic went.

We, as in the WSU athletic department, need to be willing to sacrifice a "buy" game or two (Marshall says he wants four buy games) in order to play better teams. That's the only way it's going to happen.

But even so, there wasn't much wrong with our non-conf SOS. The problem was we didn't win.

Royal, I agree with you. But it can't all be left up to WSU. Some of the other Valley teams need to do the same. WSU can get a jump start on RPI if we schedule non-conference good SOS games and WIN. But, it will start to drag down once in Valley play even if we keep winning if the other Valley schools have a crappy RPI because of crappy scheduling. WSU can do only so much by itself. But at least it would be a start. If we can start it and prove to the other schools it works, maybe we can get the Valley back up where it belongs at No. 6 or 7.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

We need to schedule a home-home with Gonzaga and Butler.

We need to get a home-home with George Mason.

We should take a buy game at a big time school (see Syracuse)

We MUST do more than schedule these game. We must win them too.

[Ta town]

We all know scheduling up is impossible. I've been told several times that a mid major CAN NOT schedule anybody descent without bracket busters. Sorry

I think what you've actually been told is that it's virtually impossible when you expect home-and-homes with power-conference teams. It can be done easily if you submit to a buy game or go for an unbalanced schedule like a 2-for-1 or 3-for-2.

hmmm, pretty sure I specifically said go on the road. Besides we can't even get home and homes with equal mid majors without bracket busters...no?

[Ta town]

We all know scheduling up is impossible. I've been told several times that a mid major CAN NOT schedule anybody descent without bracket busters. Sorry

Well there are a few schools that do so and they do it well.

So do we just throw up our hands and do nothing? Are we already waving the white flag and giving up? We might as well, because if we don't take it upon ourselves to schedule up, it is obvious that few in this conference are going to do so. And the likelihood is that the MVC will in the future almost
certainly be a one bid conference.

There are reportedly a number of BCS schools (Colorado for just one one) whose current OC schedules are weak and may very well keep them from an at-large NCAA bid. They need to schedule up just as we do.

Based on projections for the next two years, the Shocks should have a decent RPI, but will be beatable both at home and on the road.

Now, at least to me, seems to be the perfect time for us to at least try and schedule a series of home and away games with decent BCS teams who are also looking to do the same.

There are 10,500 of you outstanding fans in Wichita who are footing the bill for the majority of WSU sports. You, together, exhibit a tremendous amount of power. You pay the bills, and most importantly, the salaries of the AD, coaches, and their entire staffs. Put a petition together complaining that you are tired of paying your hard earned money to play pansies and you want better teams scheduled. If enough people complain, and complain loudly, it is almost a certainty that there will be a vastly increased effort made to bring about changes.

lol, I was being sarcastic

[wsushox1]

We need to schedule a home-home with Gonzaga and Butler.

We need to get a home-home with George Mason.

We should take a buy game at a big time school (see Syracuse)

We MUST do more than schedule these game. We must win them too.

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[wsushox1]

Someone from WSU call up Larranaga and get that Home and Home done.

[ShockerFever]

Someone from WSU call up Larranaga and get that Home and Home done.

According to GMU fans, our coach turned down such an offer, so I don't think that's gonna happen.

[wsushox1]

Someone from WSU call up Larranaga and get that Home and Home done.

According to GMU fans, our coach turned down such an offer, so I don't think that's gonna happen.

If true, terrible decision.

[Downtown Shocker Brown]

Someone from WSU call up Larranaga and get that Home and Home done.

According to GMU fans, our coach turned down such an offer, so I don't think that's gonna happen.

If true, terrible decision.

Doesn't matter what happened in the past. Our schedule may not have meshed together at that point.

Now is the time to make that call and get it done. Both fan bases want it. It benefits both teams RPI wise, and damnit I'm sick of relying on the Valley to help us.

Take care of our selves, Screw the Valley, win the games and we're in the NCAA.

[Kung Wu]

Someone from WSU call up Larranaga and get that Home and Home done.

According to GMU fans, our coach turned down such an offer, so I don't think that's gonna happen.

You automatically believe that third hand rumor?

[ABC]

Who knows if that GMU fan is correct.

But we should schedule up.

But I am starting to conclude the main culprit is the MVC - that our 14 conference wins just didn't help us much.

We do not have many conference options, but if the MVC continues down this path, I think we have no choice but to look for something else.

A 24-8 team that is 14-4 in the MVC should not be playing in the NIT.

If Marshall leaves, that could be a fairly big stumbling block in getting another good coach.

[ShockerFever]

Someone from WSU call up Larranaga and get that Home and Home done.

According to GMU fans, our coach turned down such an offer, so I don't think that's gonna happen.

You automatically believe that third hand rumor?

That GMU fan is pretty respected around here. Until I here confirmation of the reversal, then yes.