We are ALL TALK!!

[ShockerFever]

So you think if somebody didn't come out and have to be put on suicide watch that they are some how a lesser fan? Get a grip.

No, I didn't say that.

Yes you did.

I question people who simply don't care what happened yesterday and are trying to make a "life lesson" about it.

You can tell a lot about people character of how they act when things don't go the right way.

I was willing to invest my time, vacation and money to travel to STL and root the Shocks on while you sat at home. If you really was a great Shocker fan that you think you were - you would have been there.

Oh, so now anybody who didn't go to St. Louis is not a "great" Shocker fan.

Actually no I don't. If your shocker fan your shocker fan. There are not levels of fan hood.

But if you want to start judging others by how deep their black and gold runs - hey I can play that game also and we can use some real, indisputable metrics - lets go.

There were some hard core fans who couldn't come down until Saturday - 7 hours to see WSU lose and 7 hours back.

I know some Shocker fans who came in from Atlanta for the Shocker games.

The reality is there were hard shocker fan there in STL and those who couldn't be there.

I'm glad you had the fortune of investing your money into the NIT this year. I did the same with my season tickets. I guess we're even?

You know what Shocker basketball is for me - it is a family affair. Me and my sister family get together where for every shocker game we go out together and eat supper and then go cheer on the Shocks.

It all started because you were the first one who railed on the Shocker faithful who were venting:

Man u guys suck. Quit wallowing in your self pity. If shocker basketball define anything in your life - you are a loser. It is only entertainment and life goes on win or lose. And the funny thing is none of you actually have any bearing on what wsu does on the court or on the field.

So if anybody needs to practice what they preach, it's you man.

[shocksrbest]

Yep should do better. Lots of wasted resources.

The point is that we should not only do better (which we should) but we should walk the walk before we start talking the talk.

Totally agree...Disappointing as the loss was, we are in no position to tout ourselves as the best and deserving of a different and better conference. All that does is make us sound and look arrogant.

[shox8498]

Wichita is strengthening its title as the Under-Achiever Capitol of the World.

We need a culture change in this community. We're soft, we're lazy, we're satisfied with the status quo.

We lack field leaders who want to put us on their back and lead us out of our mediocrity.....anyone who fits that characteristic seems to want to grab the first ticket to anywhere else......or leave before their eligibility is exhausted.......or just quit because they don't want to accept the challenge anymore.

Good coaches aren't enough, we need someone with courage to take charge of the troops on the field of battle. I thought we had someone like that out there among the so-called "depth"......evidently that notion was seriously misplaced.

Hate to say it, because it's unlikely to happen, but we could use someone like Perry Ellis.

[SB Shock]

It all started because you were the first one who railed on the Shocker faithful who were venting:

There is a difference between venting and acting like a spoiled child.

So if anybody needs to practice what they preach, it's you man.

So you admit I'm right?

[ShockBand]

And the winner of the last word of the thread festival is me. Locked.