Wichita State at UNI Game Thread

[pinstripers]

Not sure much of that, while true, would be constued as "between the lines".

[wsushox1]

Cuonzo martin is the biggest name coach in the MVC

What brought that on?

Someone told me on MVCfans that that is the reason Jerk Vitale is calling their
BB game.

[shoxlax]

Here is what I took out of it:

-Chris Jans is the stud of the assistants and in line for a HC job-the players actually listen to him;

-Rags is our man at PG the rest of the way, although the plane comment was strange;

-Quit whining about O'Rear, it happened to us last year and we didn't ***** and moan.

I think he only mentioned Coach Jans because he was the one doing the scouting report for UNI and commending the players for paying attention to the scouting report.

The big thing that Marshall hinted at is that the SIU game might have been a turning point. It sounds like the coaches challenged the guys over their play and toughness and by the sounds of it, they responded well. Hopefully this isn't a temporary fix, but something that lasts for the rest of the year.

My read between the lines thought, Mad, is that whatever coach had the scout for SIU, the players ignored. Could be totally off base. I do think that Coach Jans is highly thought of by most everyone.

Ignoring the coach aside, still doesn't explain the faulty game plan by the staff against SIU...oh well, I will let it go.

[1972Shocker]

Some random thoughts.

With the exception of a a couple of ill-advised fouls, was this Joe's best defensive game as he was primarily on Anthony James and , and, in fact, was this his best overall game?

From my perspective I would have to say it was.

Also probably the best Hatch/Smith combo performance of the year.

I agree that D-Will looked pretty disinterested. And DK appears to be in full reversion to his old ways. HCGM has some work to do here as we could use both these youmg men palying well, especially DK. Garrett was also a non-factor but UNI's approach when he was in the game was clearly to have his man take him outside and either shoot over him or drive past him. Egelseder was a mutch better match up for Garrett.

I am very pleased with the win and the performance vs UNI. However, I am not as high as I was low after the SIU debacle. I think the only thing that will wipe that out is if the Shocks run the table.

Next up Evansville. Hope they do a white out.

:goshocks:

[Awesome Sauce Malone]

All I can really say about Ragland is that he showed alot of emotion on the floor last night which was a really good thing

[Ricardo del Rio]

I agree that D-Will looked pretty disinterested.

I thought he looked angry.

I did not like the look.

If he left, after this season, I will not be surprised.

[WuDrWu]

It's frustrating for sure, for everyone, with DW. His talent is huge and we've all seen him succeed at a very high level but it appears that getting the "street" out of him is going to take a lot more work, and maybe it just can't be done.

I hear ya RDR......I hear ya.

[SHOXAAC]

Yes Mike, I did go to Barnrd's today. Who dares say their french fries are not the best in town?

Agreed. Plus the best french dip ever...

Personally, their Supreme is THE best fast food sandwich of all time.


They take the time to slow roast it.....cooking all the fat out of it....so healthy and good. :whistle:


It's not just fast food.....it's good, healthy food made quickly.

I finally connected the dots. You were the one who took my drive thru order today. Co-owner perhaps?

I think he's really Kennedy double-tasking. ;-)

[ShockRef]

I could go for less of Hatch's off balance, awkward, threes but overall an inspired half of basketball by the shocks. Do NOT let these floppers back into this game.

Good Call. We certainly don't want GH taking any more 3's bombs.


His 3, when the issue was in doubt, was a dagger.


The "chomp chomp chomp" I can hear from 4 states away is the crow eat-fest taking place right now.

Here's some tasty advice - use some Tabasco. That stuff makes anything taste better. 8)

I suggest you stop or GH is going to have to get a restraining order on you.

ABC,
Actually, that's some funny stuff. It certainly made me laugh. 8)

[SHOXAAC]

Wichita State University Basketball : 2010-2011
Enigma : Something hard to explain.
Conumdrum: An intricate and difficult problem.
Puzzle: A question, problem or contrivance designed for testing ingenuity.
Perplex: To make unable to grasp something clearly or to think logically and decisively about something.

This team, although we all love em, can't seem to find a consistent identity. How many times this year have we concluded "this game marks the turnaround?"

My concern is it's getting too late in the season to still be up in the air on our PG. Yes, Rags had a quality game last night, but will it consistently carry forward?

It seems to be a safe conclusion as long as Toure doesn't shoot beyond about 10-feet, he looks comfortable and is effecive on offense.

Is the jury still out on the consequences to the oppoisition when the ball goes into the post? I would think last nights game was a perfect clinical case study to put that issue to bed. It helped that our 3-point specialist David Kyles was polishing the bench with his backside instead of jacking up 3 pointers left & right.

JT is becoming expert in either imposing his low-post moves or passing to the open man.

Gabe, the energizing bunny, just keeps playing like the beast he is.

AE is certainly one of our most efficient players. Has he perfected that 12-15 foot face-up jumper or what?

As much as I have critisized DK's 3-point shot selection, I praise Ben's ability to position himself properly, square up and shoot with confidence. And when he is not hitting the dagger 3's, he scores on put-backs, or is rewarded when he flashes to the basket. Please DK, watch film of Ben; it would be nice to have two players with that kind of athletic ability who know how to use it.

It was nice to see Hatch come back to life last night. We know, even when he is not "on" offensively, what we are getting every night.

Stutz is, and always will be, a matchup player. UNI is not a good matchup for him, as was also seen when he played 9 minutes and was scoreless in the game in Wichita.

D-Will is truly an enigma...he can't be explained. I think his window of opportunity and proving himself to this program is narrowing like a clotted artery.

They played focused, tough and with heart last night, but can this really be a trend going forward? I would like to believe it so, but past experience has me asking "is the glass half emtpy?" Come on Shocks, change my mind.

:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

[60Shock]

Being an out of towner, I only have the opportunity to watch a small fraction of the Shocker's games, but this is one of the finest and most complete games I have seen them play during the last ten years.

Kudos to the coaches and the entire team. Especially to our four seniors, JT, Blair, Ellis, and Hatch, whose aggressive and rugged play buried and completely neutralized the entire NI team. TM, Rags, and Smith and others certainly played and contributed as well.

[Shox21]

All I can really say about Ragland is that he showed alot of emotion on the floor last night which was a really good thing

You say Joe's "emotion" is good and for the most part I agree. I really wish though that he (and Hatch) would take a page out of Durley's book when it comes to facial expressions when called for a foul. You rarely see a reaction from Durley when he is called for a foul. You can't argue with the ref so why piss him off and make him look at you all the closer the rest of the game. The "disbelief" look on both JR and GH are getting very old and tiresome, and make them appear like whiners. I have always been a huge fan of Hatch (even his first year when most posters on SN were down on him), but I don't like his "both hands on the sides of his head, mouth open, eyes wide with disbelief" look he gives.

As for DWill -- I've noticed he has been on mop up with the end of bench on more than one of our games. Who would you like for Coach to put in at point at the end of a blowout? Risk an injury to TM or JR when it is meaningless? I don't want to see Williams leave. As you say, he has a ton of talent. But he seems to play out of control a lot, throwing his body at the basket. I don't claim to know the answer to the puzzle of DW, but I sure hope Coach figures it out because I truly would like for Willaims to be a part of this team next year, but only if he is going to contribute like I thnk our coaches all thought he would.[/code]

[Shox21]

If this has been posted, don't shoot the messenger, just ignore it.

http://wcfcourier.com/sports/college/uni/mens_basketball/article_892c940e-3725-11e0-8706-001cc4c03286.html

[Capitol Shock]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Demetric's playing time increase significantly in the next few weeks.

He was fantastic down the stretch last year and in St. Louis and I think Murry will be playing more 2 with Kyles so I think that will open up a few more minutes.

[Shox21]

I wouldn't be surprised to see Demetric's playing time increase significantly in the next few weeks.

He was fantastic down the stretch last year and in St. Louis and I think Murry will be playing more 2 with Kyles so I think that will open up a few more minutes.

If he starts to get more minutes, maybe he will be happier. And a happier DWill makes for a better playing and more relaxed DWill (and maybe he won't take so many of those crazy, out of control drives to the basket which results in nada). I wish the best for him.