Selection Committee Member Pat Murphy

[SHOCKvalue]

Wow, I'm pretty sure there aren't any basketball coaches on the basketball committee. :lol:

Is this garbage even legal?

Sure it is.

The NCAA is what amounts to a private collegiate athletic management group. Outside of something completely ridiculous, they can do whatever they want.

[billybud]

Some may think that it is ridiculous that teams from the Colonial, Atlantic, Ivy etc..get an automatic bid.

Some may wonder how a team with an RPI in the 90's gets to play.

People ***** about OK State and Baylor, but their RPI was respectable (in the 30's).

It is all about who's oxe is getting gored.

[Ta town]

Some may think that it is ridiculous that teams from the Colonial, Atlantic, Ivy etc..get an automatic bid.

Some may wonder how a team with an RPI in the 90's gets to play.

People ***** about OK State and Baylor, but their RPI was respectable (in the 30's).

It is all about who's oxe is getting gored.

Umm OSU won 2 of 9 big 12 series, didn't qualify for conf tourney. they dont deserve to be in regardless of RPI. You see when a non BCS school has to resort to the RPI argument it goes along with an excellent record. When a BCS school uses the RPI argument it goes along with a crappy record.

Crappy conf champions get in via a non subjective route. So there can't be any argument. Conf tourney champs go, no argument. Maybe if the power schools who can't take advantage of mo money, mo t.v., mo better competition, mo popularity and use it to thier advantage should leave the BCS leagues and go dominate a crappy conf. Oh wait they would have to be f_ing insane!

Anybody whose school gets first pick of recruits, brings in crazy money, gets t.v. out the yahoo because of thier league then complains that thier league is SO tough come at large time needs to shut thier mouths. Im sorry but im sick of this argument. Lots of built in advantages being in a BCS league and if they can't finish higher than 9th in thier league then they can't win a national championship so arguing for an at large is ridiculous.

Not saying WSU can this year either (obviously). However they got a bid via winning a competition over 4 days. OSU got thier bid via losing to good competition and not even finishing in the top 80% of thier league.

[wooly]

Some may think that it is ridiculous that teams from the Colonial, Atlantic, Ivy etc..get an automatic bid.

Some may wonder how a team with an RPI in the 90's gets to play.

People ***** about OK State and Baylor, but their RPI was respectable (in the 30's).

It is all about who's oxe is getting gored.

Both Okie Lite and Baylor getting in is a disgrace. Neither deserved it. I'm a Big XII fan and am embarassed to see 8 teams get in.

[WuDrWu]

It's simply another perfect example of a bcs only having to show one or 2 positives to get in the tourney while a non bsc school has to show all BUT 1 or 2 postives to get in.

Anyone that thinks the RPI is ANYTHING except a great formula to protect the bcs schools is kidding themselves.

[billybud]

LOL...well, the non BCS have made it to the CWS in better fashion than the Big 10 over the last 20 seasons. Eleven different non BCS teams made it to the series (some multiple times). The Big Ten hasn't gone

Cal State Fullerton has two titles in that period and Fresno State has one.

Baseball seems to be regional in nature...the Big Ten and Big East (now minus Miami) just don't seem to have competitive teams, The west coast, southeast and Big 12 areas seem to have more competitive teams.

[rrshock]

LOL...well, the non BCS have made it to the CWS in better fashion than the Big 10 over the last 20 seasons. Eleven different non BCS teams made it to the series (some multiple times). The Big Ten hasn't gone

Cal State Fullerton has two titles in that period and Fresno State has one.

Baseball seems to be regional in nature...the Big Ten and Big East (now minus Miami) just don't seem to have competitive teams, The west coast, southeast and Big 12 areas seem to have more competitive teams.

Mainly due to the warm weather status of many of those schools. Remember the northern schools can't play at home for the first part of the season.

[ShockerFever]

Some may think that it is ridiculous that teams from the Colonial, Atlantic, Ivy etc..get an automatic bid.

Some may wonder how a team with an RPI in the 90's gets to play.

People ***** about OK State and Baylor, but their RPI was respectable (in the 30's).

It is all about who's oxe is getting gored.

It's too early in the year for you to start pulling your shiat in here again. Wait at least a week.

[ShockerFever]

LOL...well, the non BCS have made it to the CWS in better fashion than the Big 10 over the last 20 seasons. Eleven different non BCS teams made it to the series (some multiple times). The Big Ten hasn't gone

Cal State Fullerton has two titles in that period and Fresno State has one.

Baseball seems to be regional in nature...the Big Ten and Big East (now minus Miami) just don't seem to have competitive teams, The west coast, southeast and Big 12 areas seem to have more competitive teams.

Mainly due to the warm weather status of many of those schools. Remember the northern schools can't play at home for the first part of the season.

Please don't tell me FSU fans are that ignorant. Did he really just bring up the Big 10 and Big East as examples?

In college baseball, the Big West Conference is more of a major than the Big Ten or Big East conferences.

[BostonWu]

LOL...well, the non BCS have made it to the CWS in better fashion than the Big 10 over the last 20 seasons. Eleven different non BCS teams made it to the series (some multiple times). The Big Ten hasn't gone

Cal State Fullerton has two titles in that period and Fresno State has one.

Baseball seems to be regional in nature...the Big Ten and Big East (now minus Miami) just don't seem to have competitive teams, The west coast, southeast and Big 12 areas seem to have more competitive teams.

Being a regional sport is not a good thing. It only serves to limit the ceiling on a national scale. Screwing worthy teams such as URI is just 2 steps back in an attempt to expand interest in this regional sport. College baseball should be so much more than it currently is.

[CharlieHog]

Being a regional sport is not a good thing. It only serves to limit the ceiling on a national scale. Screwing worthy teams such as URI is just 2 steps back in an attempt to expand interest in this regional sport. College baseball should be so much more than it currently is.

Well for one thing, URI really isn't THAT worthy.

For another, I don't think growing the sport into the Northeast should be a selection criteria.

College baseball will never be played in the summer months and thus Northern teams will always have to go on the road and will never get to play many home games. By design it's a regional sport and letting URI into the tournament isn't going to change that.

If the NCAA was really interested in growing the sport (which, they aren't) they could move the season (out of the winter) or do a split season. Which would interfere with football, so, that won't happen.

[ShockCity]

LOL...well, the non BCS have made it to the CWS in better fashion than the Big 10 over the last 20 seasons. Eleven different non BCS teams made it to the series (some multiple times). The Big Ten hasn't gone

Cal State Fullerton has two titles in that period and Fresno State has one.

Baseball seems to be regional in nature...the Big Ten and Big East (now minus Miami) just don't seem to have competitive teams, The west coast, southeast and Big 12 areas seem to have more competitive teams.

This is precisely why the NCAA wants to keep teams like URI and Missouri State out and put in non-deserving teams like OSU and Baylor.

[ShockerFever]

Now we know why college baseball will always be associated with minor sports such as track and field, golf, swimming, water polo, etc.

The NCAA wants it that way.

[CharlieHog]

Now we know why college baseball will always be associated with minor sports such as track and field, golf, swimming, water polo, etc.

The NCAA wants it that way.

I wouldn't say it's on the level of track and field, golf or swimming. But, depending on where you are, it's on the level of lacrosse, hockey and wrestling. (I.e. sports that actually have fans.)

Baseball isn't the 3rd sport everywhere because not every school wants to put the money into it. Instead they put their money into hockey, lacrosse, etc.

[shockfan89_]

College Baseball should start May 1st and the CWS should be the beginning or middle of August. Until that time it will continue to be a regional sport. It would solve so many problems with college and pro baseball it really amazes me this hasn't been changed already. But then again we still don't have a D1 Football playoff system so chances of the NCAA doing something that makes sense is slim to none...