Preseason poll and All-Valley Selections

[Wuzee]

Shox 3rd.

McKeever gets skipped over. Should be nice fuel for a big season from him.

http://www.goshockers.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=7500&ATCLID=3659907

[ShockerFever]

Wow. 3rd? That's good stuff.

It'll be nice being the hunter for a change. Sometimes the big expectations seem too much for us. It'll be nice being an 'underdog' for once.

Conversely, we'll see how well MSU handles getting everyone's best shot night in and night out.

[WuDrWu]

So I guess MSU voted us 1st since you can't vote for your own.


I am having some very good laughs today.



:wsu_posters: :goshocks: :posterwu: :posterwsu:

[fuball7]

Wow. 3rd? That's good stuff.

It'll be nice being the hunter for a change. Sometimes the big expectations seem too much for us. It'll be nice being an 'underdog' for once.

Conversely, we'll see how well MSU handles getting everyone's best shot night in and night out.

people will still get up for the name on the front of the jersey. trust me

[Cdizzle]

I don't think 3rd is low enough to give Gene a shot at winning his award. If Creighton finishes in the top 5, look for Servais to pick it up again.

[tru2thaduce]

3rd is about right for preseason with what we are bringing back.Hope it put's a chip on the ole shoulder.Can't wait to watch our Shox!!!

[SB Shock]

By my estimation WSU got the following votes:

1-1st
4-2nd,
2-3rd and
1-9th place (Illinois St)

[shocks02]

By my estimation WSU got the following votes:

1-1st
4-2nd,
2-3rd and
1-9th place (Illinois St)

Why do you think we got a 9th place vote from ISU?

[shoxlax]

Their coach, Brownstain, hates us.

[ShockerFever]

By my estimation WSU got the following votes:

1-1st
4-2nd,
2-3rd and
1-9th place (Illinois St)

Why do you think we got a 9th place vote from ISU?

It's a tradition every year from the Illinois State coach. He's a d-bag.

[SB Shock]

By my estimation WSU got the following votes:

1-1st
4-2nd,
2-3rd and
1-9th place (Illinois St)

Why do you think we got a 9th place vote from ISU?

Illinois State coach votes WSU last every year.

[WSUwatcher]

Math

Slow down, SB -- that's only eight votes.

I assume you mean one 1st, four 2nd, three 3rd, and one 9th, which adds up to 63 poll points. And I guess that's possible -- maybe even plausible, considering who we're talking about -- but it's certainly not the only way to get to those 63 points.

[SHOCKvalue]

It seems to me, after observing these MVC baseball pre-season polls for years, that on the off year where it's not obvious the Shockers are going to dominate, the poll towards the top represents the worst case scenario for the Shocks, and best case scenario for the others. Basically giving the benefit of the doubt for anyone not called Wichita State.

This year is a good example of the theory. The Shocks very well might not end up the season on the top, but for MSU and CU to bypass us along the way would take a worse than expected outcome for WSU, and a better than expected outcome for MSU and CU.

[SB Shock]

Re: Math

Slow down, SB -- that's only eight votes.

I assume you mean one 1st, four 2nd, three 3rd, and one 9th, which adds up to 63 poll points. And I guess that's possible -- maybe even plausible, considering who we're talking about -- but it's certainly not the only way to get to those 63 points.

My calculation was based on the assumptions that there are 9 teams, each coach votes how they think how the other 8 team will finish. They are excluded for voting for themselves. That would mean that each team would only get 8 votes.

Now I could be wrong in that, maybe there is no restrictions, which would open up other plausible explanations such as yours.

[goshox24]

My expectations:

1. We will finish either 1st or 2nd in the MVC.
2. We will have a pitcher on the 1st team.
3. McKeever will be on the 1st team, somewhere.
4. A newcomer will be on the 1st team.