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  • #16
    Originally posted by shockfan89
    Originally posted by lawmaker
    SHOX1989 is completely wrong, but post away.
    lawmaker - Do you really think Josh has more leverage being a 38th round pick as a Jr than he would as a 15th round pick as a Sr? I doubt there is much difference either way but I really don't know? If he had a really good Sr year I think Josh could move up 20 rounds in the draft. Wouldn't he be further ahead? He may just want to move on due to his age, but I really can't see how he would be better off with regards to money as a 38th round Jr? Please explain.

    I agree that there's probably not a whole lot of difference, but you're making a big assumption that he's going to jump from 38 to 15...it's a long shot. Plus he could always get drafted in the 15th or even 10th and get the old Royals treatment of "$1,000 - take it or quit playing ball"...like Aviles and Ryan Braun.

    Also you guys are overlooking the possible practical life implications. Maybe he wants to give pro ball a shot, but knows it's highly unlikely to really workout. Assumign he got his degree, might as well not "waste" another year in school just to play ball for free. Might as well make a little money, see how it goes for a couple of years, and then be a year younger when you decide to start your real career.

    Anyone know if he's one of the guys getting married?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by 7hottamales
      Also you guys are overlooking the possible practical life implications. Maybe he wants to give pro ball a shot, but knows it's highly unlikely to really workout. Assumign he got his degree, might as well not "waste" another year in school just to play ball for free. Might as well make a little money, see how it goes for a couple of years, and then be a year younger when you decide to start your real career.
      Yes, this is a point that I think many forget. Not only is he playing for free, he has to pay for the privilege to play college ball. Most of the players are on 1/2 or less scholarship, which means they have to come up with living expenses, etc. to play baseball in college. I would think it is impossible to hold any kind of job to actually earn much money to pay those expenses. If the goal is to play, why not give it a shot when the opportunity presents itself and get paid (admittedly, not much as a minor leaguer) for it. In circumstances like Josh's, he's probably at least close to graduating and can move on from baseball in a couple or three years if it doesn't work out and get on with his life.

      Better yet, all the nagging injuries are behind him and he learns to take advantage of his great speed and have some success in pro ball.

      --'85.
      Basketball Season Tix since '77-78 . . . . . . Baseball Season Tix since '88

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Shocker85
        Originally posted by 7hottamales
        Also you guys are overlooking the possible practical life implications. Maybe he wants to give pro ball a shot, but knows it's highly unlikely to really workout. Assumign he got his degree, might as well not "waste" another year in school just to play ball for free. Might as well make a little money, see how it goes for a couple of years, and then be a year younger when you decide to start your real career.
        Yes, this is a point that I think many forget. Not only is he playing for free, he has to pay for the privilege to play college ball. Most of the players are on 1/2 or less scholarship, which means they have to come up with living expenses, etc. to play baseball in college. I would think it is impossible to hold any kind of job to actually earn much money to pay those expenses. If the goal is to play, why not give it a shot when the opportunity presents itself and get paid (admittedly, not much as a minor leaguer) for it. In circumstances like Josh's, he's probably at least close to graduating and can move on from baseball in a couple or three years if it doesn't work out and get on with his life.

        Better yet, all the nagging injuries are behind him and he learns to take advantage of his great speed and have some success in pro ball.

        --'85.
        Or there is the other alternative - come back for that one last chance at getting to CWS. Of course, he may look at what next year team looks like and know that is not a realistic goal.

        You can never fault a young guy for chasing after his dreams.

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        • #19
          I understand the discussion about better off signing as a Sr. or a Jr., but seriously he is going to sign, and might have already signed. He will be in Florida to start rookie ball next week I think. This is fact not speculation.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by shocker22
            I understand the discussion about better off signing as a Sr. or a Jr., but seriously he is going to sign, and might have already signed. He will be in Florida to start rookie ball next week I think. This is fact not speculation.
            I don't think anyone has disputed that he would sign. It is sometimes more difficult for we old farts to understand all that goes into these decisions and the kids' modivation. This discussion helps us try to understand.

            Good for Josh. If my company would have came to me when I was a Jr. and said, "We'll go ahead and hire you now even though you haven't finished college and you can stay if you do well." I would have said, "OK, when and where should I report for work?"

            --'85.
            Basketball Season Tix since '77-78 . . . . . . Baseball Season Tix since '88

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            • #21
              He will be in rookie ball with both Weber and Dirks, kinda cool to go in with your teamates with you.

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              • #22
                SHOCKER FAN 89

                My answer is yes---as a Junior and a 38th round pick you have more leverage than a senior--it does not matter what round you are taken in....

                If you are a senior, you have to sign--well basically have to sign or you sit a year. As a junior you always can say to the MLB team I am going back to school.

                MLB teams take fliers on juniors or even senior's in high school in late rounds all of the time, hoping they might go for the green and sign.

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