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  • #31
    Originally posted by SpanglerFan316
    Before the regional:
    Williams Jr., Kenny .325
    Hall, Kevin .226
    http://www.mvc.org/baseball/2008stats/wsu.htm
    im not sure but i think those were their number before MVC tourney
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    • #32
      newshock1234: You're right.
      Some posts are not visible to me. :peaceful:
      Don't worry too much about it. Just do all you can do and let the rough end drag.

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      • #33
        It's simple, Hall in left, McKeever at first and Williams to DH. Done deal, we win the CWS :D

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        • #34
          I think against LHP we need to put McKeever at 1B and have KWJ DH (leaving Hall in LF). Against RHP I am not sure, the percentage play would be to replace Hall with KWJ in LF and leave Hill at 1B and DH Clint.

          One thing we need to consider is McKeever as a reliever (I just like that because it rhymes). If Clint starts at 1B and moves to pitcher we lose the DH right? But if he starts at DH he can return to DH? I am not sure I have that right or not? Please help me out.

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          • #35
            po a e fld%
            Hill, Tyler 360 22 1 .997
            McKeever, Clinton 119 9 2 .985


            How important is it to avoid errors at first base? Who is our best defensive first baseman?
            Some posts are not visible to me. :peaceful:
            Don't worry too much about it. Just do all you can do and let the rough end drag.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by SpanglerFan316
              po a e fld%
              Hill, Tyler 360 22 1 .997
              McKeever, Clinton 119 9 2 .985


              How important is it to avoid errors at first base? Who is our best defensive first baseman?
              If you are just talking 1B and Hill or McKeever, I would much rather trade 1 error for the offensive difference:

              Code:
              Player   AVG   AB   R   H   2B  3B  HR RBI   TB  SLG%  BB HBP  SO GDP   OB%
              
              McKeever .329  164  32  54  14   0   5  38   83  .506  22   5  33   5  .418
              Hill     .275  160  26  44  11   1   0  21   57  .356  26   2  25   4  .379

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              • #37
                I may be stirring the pot, but can either Hall or Williams play right field? Jones hasn't been that great lately.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by shockfan89
                  Originally posted by SpanglerFan316
                  po a e fld%
                  Hill, Tyler 360 22 1 .997
                  McKeever, Clinton 119 9 2 .985


                  How important is it to avoid errors at first base? Who is our best defensive first baseman?
                  If you are just talking 1B and Hill or McKeever, I would much rather trade 1 error for the offensive difference:

                  Code:
                  Player   AVG   AB   R   H   2B  3B  HR RBI   TB  SLG%  BB HBP  SO GDP   OB%
                  
                  McKeever .329  164  32  54  14   0   5  38   83  .506  22   5  33   5  .418
                  Hill     .275  160  26  44  11   1   0  21   57  .356  26   2  25   4  .379

                  Actually Hill has 3 errors and McKeever has 2.

                  Hill is probably marginally better at first, maybe enough to make a 3 or 4 run difference at first over a 70 game season.

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                  • #39
                    shockfan89: My preference would be to keep McKeever as DH, Hill at first and either Hall or Williams in left with the other available to PH or PR. This is in reply to your comment "If you are just talking 1B and Hill or McKeever". I was just providing information about the 1B players.

                    7hottamales: Can you provide a link on your comment "Actually Hill has 3 errors and McKeever has 2"? The MVC stats do not include the MVC and NCAA tourneys so Hill might have two errors not reflected in http://www.mvc.org/baseball/2008stats/wsu.htm. With so many more attempts (383 vs. 130 before the post season), Hill would need about 6 errors (total) to have the same fielding percentage as McKeever.
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                    Don't worry too much about it. Just do all you can do and let the rough end drag.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Dan
                      I may be stirring the pot, but can either Hall or Williams play right field? Jones hasn't been that great lately.
                      Jones has the ability to break out at any moment and benching him now would be a terrible mistake. By this logic we should have benched Tyler Weber for the Championship game against OSU because he "hadn't been great." I'm pretty sure his defense saved us about 5 runs due to Capra's superb ability to throw the ball in the dirt and he also hit a homerun to give us a lead. If Jones is benched, I'll be very, very surprised. I know that Lassley isn't nearly as good as Hall or KWJr right now, but you don't bench a guy who brings so much to the team like Jones.
                      "You can observe a lot just by watching."
                      -- Yogi Berra

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                      • #41
                        I'm going to leave it all up to Gene because there is 0% chance he will listen to any of us anyway and that is the way is should be because that is why he gets paid the big bucks and we don't. The last time he messed with the lineup we lost 3 in a row.

                        I think at this time it is all about team chemistry and he doesn't want to break that so he won't change things as long as they aren't broken. Hall hasn't got turned around in the outfield and cost us a game as far as I can remember.

                        Everyone has good points. So we all leave it up to the guy with +1600 wins. I don't think there is a better place to to place it.

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                        • #42
                          I agree. I know Gene has gone over everything we brought up and probably more...

                          Spangler - I know, I could go either way with it. I was just trying to find a way to get both Hall and KWJ in the lineup since I would hate to see Hall benched when he has done so well with the opportunity he received. Would also hate to see KWJ lose his spot due to illness. Like someone else said, good dilema to have.

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                          • #43
                            I really think, with the way KWJ swings the bat from both sides, and the way he runs, he is the perfect player to come off the bench for this team.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by goshox24
                              I really think, with the way KWJ swings the bat from both sides, and the way he runs, he is the perfect player to come off the bench for this team.
                              He does not play left field as well as hall, and with FSU hitters we will need good all the defense we can get

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                              • #45
                                Looks like it'll be Williams


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