How many seasons does Butler get?

[shockfan89_]

Does it seem odd to anyone else the Walker calls the pitches and not the pitching coach? I know Walker was a catcher but I doubt he called the pitches then since WSU was one of the only programs that had catchers call their own games. Wouldn't this seem like something you would expect your pitching coach to do? Seems to me like this could cause some issues within the coaching staff especially when you have a team ERA over 5 and have given up the following number of runs in your past eight games (8, 14, 8, 11, 13, 3, 12, 4). Just an average of 9.125 runs per game surrendered...

[Cdizzle]

I like guys who can get outs. So far, none of these "power arms" (which haven't exactly been lighting up the radar gun either), are able to get outs.

The point of pitching is to get outs.

[ShockTalk]

Does it seem odd to anyone else the Walker calls the pitches and not the pitching coach? I know Walker was a catcher but I doubt he called the pitches then since WSU was one of the only programs that had catchers call their own games. Wouldn't this seem like something you would expect your pitching coach to do? Seems to me like this could cause some issues within the coaching staff especially when you have a team ERA over 5 and have given up the following number of runs in your past eight games (8, 14, 8, 11, 13, 3, 12, 4). Just an average of 9.125 runs per game surrendered...

I've wondered about that. Of course, all I've seen here is speculation on whether Butler recruits the pitchers and are we sure Walker calls the pitches? Given the pitching staff's problem, I could see BK becoming very frustrated if those are both true. If they are, maybe HCTB should do more changes than moving down to the 3rd base coaching box and let one of the best pitching coaches in college baseball take more control if he wishes to.

[SB Shock]

I don't think there is any real mystery. Look at these walk stats:



A 0 or 1 out walk adds ~0.3 to 0.4 of expected runs for that inning. WSU pitchers are averaging 3.97 walks per game and 0.94 HBP per game. That is alot of free runs that the other team doesn't have to work for.

[bleed yellow]

I watched a HCTB interview about a week ago.. He seemed like he was in a embattled mind frame. Not good. It takes major changes to get any coach out of a embattled mind frame, and after what just happened with retaining Marshall, there won't be any sudden moves by wsu if it seems it maybe time to move on from Butler.

[1972Shocker]

I watched a HCTB interview about a week ago.. He seemed like he was in a embattled mind frame. Not good. It takes major changes to get any coach out of a embattled mind frame, and after what just happened with retaining Marshall, there won't be any sudden moves by wsu if it seems it maybe time to move on from Butler.

HCTB has a 7 year contract. I would not expect WSU to buy out more than 1 or 2 years of his contract. If that's the case he has 3 or 4 more years after this year.

[shock10]

If thing don't change after next year they should make a change. STINK IS STINK IS STINK

[Shock Top]

These Texas announcers really seem to like HCTB. They believe he will turn WSU around for sure.

I hope they are right. Maybe an outsiders perspective is what some of us need to hear.

[Cdizzle]

These Texas announcers really seem to like HCTB. They believe he will turn WSU around for sure.

Seems like he already did. I liked the previous direction.

[shockfan89_]

These Texas announcers really seem to like HCTB. They believe he will turn WSU around for sure.

I hope they are right. Maybe an outsiders perspective is what some of us need to hear.

SHURTZ - What did the announcers say they liked about him? Just curious for those of us that didn't listen to the Texas broadcast.

[Shock Top]

SHURTZ - What did the announcers say they liked about him? Just curious for those of us that didn't listen to the Texas broadcast.

That he's a great recruiter, has a great demeanor, gets his kids to have fun playing, WSU has a rich history, etc

Also talked about how HCAG really wanted him a few years back, but that Butler held off because he knew he wanted to be a HC in the near future.

The announcers were pretty good at being bias will still being the Texas broadcast. Rather refreshing.

[WstateU]

Despite the loss, I enjoyed watching the game on the Longhorn Network (ESPN3 from my iPad); it was a good game and gave me some hope for the future. Would have been easy to give up early, however they continued to battle.

[SB Shock]

If thing don't change after next year they should make a change. STINK IS STINK IS STINK

well then you need to come up with:

[shockfan89_]

Are you kidding me? Why the hell would you make a deal like that for a coach with so little head coaching experience. I guess we are still on the hook for 1.4 Mil. Look on the bright side, if things don't improve next year it would only cost 1.2 Mil to buy him out at the end of next season.

[vancedave56]

How long did It take to get the Basketball program going after Turgeon left?