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  • #46
    I'm feeling good about the recruits at this point. (And as I say that, Rader is selected in the late 16th Round)

    Here's a chart of signing (or, rather, "not signing") percentages by round for HS and 4-year players ...

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    • #47
      Isaac Anderson goes in the 19th.

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      • #48
        so far what is that 4 actual shocker players drafted?
        2 recruits?

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View Post
          Does Ladwig sign as an 11th round?
          My guess is that he will sign.

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          • #50
            They will all sign.

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            • #51
              14th Round for Chase Simpson and 15th round for Tyler Baker is pretty solid.

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              • #52
                '72... Do you see either of them waiting a year in order to get to a better round? Or as SB points out, there really is not much more to gain by not signing.

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                • #53
                  Rader has to decide between Wichita State, Tigers

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                    I can't say I really understand these draft allotments and slot values very well. But it seems to me that what a player might be offered to sign depends a lot on who drafts them.

                    For example the Marlins have total draft Rule 4 draft budget of $14,199,300. They can go over that budget but not by much before some pretty severe penalties kick in. OTOH, the Orioles 2014 draft budget is set at $2,204,000.



                    What a team has left to spend on the picks from rounds 11 through 40 depends on what they have leftover after signing their Top 10 draftees. If they fail to sign a player drafted in the Top 10 their budget is reduced by the slot value for that pick. So if Miami, for example, does not sign its Top pick (the overall #2 pick) their draft budget will be reduced by $6,821,800.



                    Also, if I am understanding this correctly (and that is a big fricken IF) they only have to count bonus money in excess of $100,000 for round 11 thru 40 draftees against their budget. Therefore, they could spend their entire bonus budget on signing their Top 10 round draftees and still be able to pay the 11 thru 40 guys signing bonuses of up to $100,000 each without penalty. Or as @SB Shock pointed out if they sign their top 10 round draftees for less on cumulative basis than their budget they can use those saving to sweeten the pot for other signees beyond the Top 10 rounds.



                    Anyone and everyone, please feel free to correct me if I have any of this wrong (of which their is a damn good chance that's the case).

                    So @pogo if I am kind of close to being correct teams can offer draftees in rounds 11 through 40 up to $100,000 to sign and in some case more depending on their Top 10 bonus budget situation. That's still a big enough wad to entice a lot of kids to sign if they are fortunate to get that kind of an offer.
                    You are way too thorough.
                    "Prediction is very difficult, especially if it is about the future."

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Veritas View Post
                      '72... Do you see either of them waiting a year in order to get to a better round? Or as SB points out, there really is not much more to gain by not signing.
                      I think they both will sign. But there are a lot factors that I know nothing about regarding these two young men's situation.
                      So I'm just guessing. I do think this was a pretty solid draft result for both of them and @SB Shock: is probably right about not a lot to be gained by coming back.

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                      • #56
                        Shocks had 7 members of their 2014 recruiting class drafted.

                        16/490 - Chase Rader 1B - Coffeyville CC - Detroit Tigers
                        19/575 - Isaac Anderson RHP - College of Southern Idaho - Cincinnati Reds
                        31/920 - Sam Hilliard LHP - Crowder College (MO) - Minnesota Twins
                        34/1026 - Storm Rynard RHP - Cowley County CC - Texas Rangers
                        37/1097 - Chase Williams RHP - Eastern Oklahoma State - Miami Marlins
                        39/1162 - Keenan Eaton - OF - Chaparral HS (CO) - Pittsburgh Pirates
                        39/1180 - Taylor Sanagorski C - Bishop Carroll HS - Detroit Tigers

                        Good chance that Chase Rader and Isaac Anderson will sign pro contracts. I expect Sam Hilliard, Storm Rynard, Chase Williams , Keenan Eaton and Taylor Sanagorski will be in the Shocker fold.
                        Last edited by 1972Shocker; June 8, 2014, 03:31 PM. Reason: Added Keenan Eaton to the List

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                        • #57
                          Does good chance mean 50/50 or 75/25? I have an ok feeling about this and that it could go either way (signing or WSU).

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                          • #58
                            It also depends on how good a salesman Butler is, and what kind of offer is on the table from WSU. For example, the article Royal linked about Rader says he has a full ride offer from WSU (really?), in which case he might be inclined to stay and try to move up a ways from the 16th round, which is not typically a big money draft position.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by WSUwatcher View Post
                              It also depends on how good a salesman Butler is, and what kind of offer is on the table from WSU. For example, the article Royal linked about Rader says he has a full ride offer from WSU (really?), in which case he might be inclined to stay and try to move up a ways from the 16th round, which is not typically a big money draft position.
                              Not only how good a salesman Butler is, but how good each player feels about his skill level. Not saying Rader is as good (maybe he's better) as Gillaspie, but how he compares himself to someone like Casey. Unless the Tigers bump Rader's slot money quite a bit, there's a lot of signing bonus difference between he and Casey.

                              I think Baker and Simpson have to be very happy about the draft. I really think A.J. should have gone much higher and would think he's got to be disappointed, but he'll probably sign as he will have less bargaining power as a senior. Hilliard, too, must be disappointed, but he's in a better position and has another year to prove himself and his slot. I'd guess Anderson will sign.

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                              • #60
                                Speaking of disappointed were there any hopes or thoughts that Cale Elam, Foster Vielock, Aaron LaBrie, Drew Palmer, Dayne Parker, Garrett Bayliff, Erik Harbutz or Micah Green would be drafted?

                                Not one of our 8 seniors were drafted. Thought maybe one of the pitchers may have been selected. It will be interesting to see if any of the guys catch on with a pro-team as an undrafted free agent or maybe with an independent such as the Wingnuts.

                                Whatever the guys decide to do I wish them best of luck and thank them for their hard work and contributions during their Shocker careers.
                                Last edited by 1972Shocker; June 8, 2014, 04:28 PM.

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