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  • #31
    Dallas Baptist has another pitcher drafted. Paul Voelker, a 5-10, 185 Jr. RHP, taken by Detroit at #310 in the 10th round.

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    • #32
      The first 10 rounds are now in the books. Casey Gillaspie is the only current or future Shocker to be drafted to this point. That will no doubt change tomorrow as 900 more players remain to be drafted.

      The Valley had 8 players taken in the first 10 rounds. 6 pitchers, 1 outfielder and 1 big bad 1st baseman. All 8 were juniors.

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      • #33
        I know things have changed over the last couple of years as far as what kind of money they throw at the later round draft picks so can I imagine (see I didn't say assume) that the young men we have coming in are looking at less money to sign and more likely to show up to class in the fall?

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        • #34
          So how surprised is everyone that A.J. hasn't been picked yet? Or Rader?

          Hilliard was project in the top 170 pitchers and through the first 10 rounds, I believe just over 150 pitchers have been chosen.

          @pogo:, about the most positive thing we can say is, that with none going in the first 10 rounds, it made our chances better.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by pogo View Post
            I know things have changed over the last couple of years as far as what kind of money they throw at the later round draft picks so can I imagine (see I didn't say assume) that the young men we have coming in are looking at less money to sign and more likely to show up to class in the fall?
            It depends on which team picks them. If a player drops because they may not be an easy sign, some teams like the Royals if they like them will still throw out of slot money at them to try to sign them.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by pogo View Post
              I know things have changed over the last couple of years as far as what kind of money they throw at the later round draft picks so can I imagine (see I didn't say assume) that the young men we have coming in are looking at less money to sign and more likely to show up to class in the fall?
              I believe what can happen is if a team is able to sign some players lower than slot (like highly drafted seniors) the MLB teams can use that saving to sign players in the lower rounds higher than slot.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by pogo View Post
                I know things have changed over the last couple of years as far as what kind of money they throw at the later round draft picks so can I imagine (see I didn't say assume) that the young men we have coming in are looking at less money to sign and more likely to show up to class in the fall?
                I can't say I really understand these draft allotments and slot values very well. But it seems to me that what a player might be offered to sign depends a lot on who drafts them.

                For example the Marlins have total draft Rule 4 draft budget of $14,199,300. They can go over that budget but not by much before some pretty severe penalties kick in. OTOH, the Orioles 2014 draft budget is set at $2,204,000.



                What a team has left to spend on the picks from rounds 11 through 40 depends on what they have leftover after signing their Top 10 draftees. If they fail to sign a player drafted in the Top 10 their budget is reduced by the slot value for that pick. So if Miami, for example, does not sign its Top pick (the overall #2 pick) their draft budget will be reduced by $6,821,800.



                Also, if I am understanding this correctly (and that is a big fricken IF) they only have to count bonus money in excess of $100,000 for round 11 thru 40 draftees against their budget. Therefore, they could spend their entire bonus budget on signing their Top 10 round draftees and still be able to pay the 11 thru 40 guys signing bonuses of up to $100,000 each without penalty. Or as @SB Shock pointed out if they sign their top 10 round draftees for less on cumulative basis than their budget they can use those saving to sweeten the pot for other signees beyond the Top 10 rounds.



                Anyone and everyone, please feel free to correct me if I have any of this wrong (of which their is a damn good chance that's the case).

                So @pogo if I am kind of close to being correct teams can offer draftees in rounds 11 through 40 up to $100,000 to sign and in some case more depending on their Top 10 bonus budget situation. That's still a big enough wad to entice a lot of kids to sign if they are fortunate to get that kind of an offer.
                Last edited by 1972Shocker; June 6, 2014, 10:21 PM.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by 1972Shocker View Post
                  So Casey could get as much as $2,000,000 if I'm reading this correctly.
                  Pretty sure. They all have a set amount after the year Strasbourg was drafted and got like 20 mil. Now they get fined if they go over.

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                  • #39
                    Thanks for the breakdown '72. As always I figured you would have an idea about how this works. It looks like that if a team really feels they need a later round draft pick to fill in a perceived need then they can offer quite a sum of money to get him. I hope that our guys value an education and an opportunity to build a resume at the college level and improve their draft status a couple of years down the road.

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                    • #40
                      Ladwig went early today, 11th round (340th) to Detroit.

                      Illinois State's Dylan Craig went in the 12th to the Rockies.

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                      • #41
                        Through round 14. Still haven't seen any more Shockers or recruits get taken, unless I just didn't recognize the name.

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                        • #42
                          Does Ladwig sign as an 11th round?

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                          • #43
                            I totally missed that Chase Simpson was taken in the 14th, by the Pirates.

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                            • #44
                              And Tyler Baker goes to Arizona in the 15th.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Downtown Shocker Brown View Post
                                Does Ladwig sign as an 11th round?
                                I would think he would sign.

                                1. WSU not going to compete for national championship next year
                                2. Had a career year, so probably can't improve his draft position
                                3. This is only chance to have any leverage to get a little $

                                So unless he values getting a college education, I think he signs.
                                Last edited by SB Shock; June 7, 2014, 02:07 PM.

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