The "Who Replaces JT" thread

[shoxtop]

So... we really just hired this guy? The acting job was at least humorous, but the jabbing the bat at the ump? Oh well, should bring folks out to the Eck, everyone loves a good show. http://busleaguesbaseball.com/2010/0...s-it-a-career/

ecocat.jpg :good:

[ShockTalk]

I did earn a Bachelors in Accounting at WSU. If that doesn't qualify me as "we", I'm sorry.

It's your posts that don't qualify you. If you don't understand that, I'm not sorry.

[shockkansas]

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True, hiring biocat as an assistant/hitting coach would have been a worse hire. Unless of course the U was trying to secure funding for a bio/agro defense facility that would rocket the U in national prestige.

[shoxtop]

True, hiring biocat as an assistant/hitting coach would have been a worse hire. Unless of course the U was trying to secure funding for a bio/agro defense facility that would rocket the U in small-town prestige.

Fixed

[The Mad Hatter]

True, hiring biocat as an assistant/hitting coach would have been a worse hire. Unless of course the U was trying to secure funding for a bio/agro defense facility that would rocket the U in national prestige.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/08/31/kansas-st-university-unveils-ecokat-mascot-and-beck-viewers-may-recognize-the-logo/

Trying to rename ecokat (yes that is with a K) to biocat in an attempt to tie it to a bio/agro defense facility that it had zero relation to would be a noble attempt were it not 2 problems:

1. EcoKat would have done more to hurt the facility than help it.
2. K-State has more national recognition from creating an embarrassing recycling mascot than for having a bio defense facility.

On the other hand, both EcoKat and the bio/agro defense facility have going viral in common.

[ShockerFever]

I dunno what's more annoying.

This guy's shtick or the fact that higher ups here are letting it continuously happen and making us all suffer.

[GoShockers89]

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[shock]

I did earn a Bachelors in Accounting at WSU. If that doesn't qualify me as "we", I'm sorry.

But got a masters in trolling at kitty high

[lostshocker]

My understanding is that NCAA rules only allow 2 coaches to go out on recruiting trips. So yes if Butler and Walker are both going to be on the road recruiting that means BK will not.

is it just 2 out at a time or just 2 period? seems odd that on a three man coaching staff that one of them couldnt ever leave to recruit.

[shockmonster]

My understanding is that NCAA rules only allow 2 coaches to go out on recruiting trips. So yes if Butler and Walker are both going to be on the road recruiting that means BK will not.

This would surprise me. Does anyone have access to the rule that limits the number of coaches who recruit?

[jdmee]

This would surprise me. Does anyone have access to the rule that limits the number of coaches who recruit?

http://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D113.pdf

page 53 - 55

11.7.4.3 Off-Campus Recruiting—At Any One Time. It is permissible for a coach to leave campus to
engage in off-campus contact or evaluation before another coach who is off campus actually returns to campus,
provided the total number of coaches recruiting on behalf of the institution at any time does not exceed the permissible number. The coach being replaced must complete his or her recruiting activities before another coach
may begin any off-campus recruiting activity. Further, the replaced coach may not engage in additional recruiting activities until after he or she has returned to the institution’s campus. (Adopted: 1/10/93, Revised: 4/28/05
effective 8/1/05, 12/13/05)
11.7.4.3.1 Exception—Basketball—July Evaluation Periods. During the July evaluation periods,
a replaced coach is not required to return to the institution’s campus before engaging in additional recruiting activities, provided not more than three coaches engage in off-campus recruiting activities each day.
(Adopted: 4/30/09)
11.7.4.3.2 Exception—Sports Other Than Basketball—June, July and August. In sports other
than basketball, during June, July and August, a replaced coach is not required to return to the institution’s
campus before engaging in additional recruiting activities, provided not more than the permissible number
of off-campus recruiters in the particular sport engage in off-campus recruiting activities each day (see Bylaw
11.7.4). (Adopted: 1/15/11)

[shocker3]

http://www.ncaapublications.com/prod...loads/D113.pdf

page 53 - 55

Thanks for the link. Just above the places in the rule book that jdmee quotes it lists each sport and the limits on total number of coaches and total number of recruiters for each sport (page 53, ncaa rule 11.7.4), for baseball it is a limit of 3 coaches and 2 recruiters:

Sport-
Limit on
Number of
Coaches,
Limit on
Off-Campus
Recruiters:

Baseball 3, 2
Basketball, Men’s 4, 3
Basketball, Women’s 4, 3
Bowling, Women’s 2, 2
Equestrian 3, 2
Fencing, Men’s 2, 2
Fencing, Women’s 2, 2
Football, Bowl Subdivision (See Bylaw 11.7.2) 14, 7
Football, Championship Subdivision (See Bylaw 11.7.3) 11, 7
Field Hockey- 3,2
Golf, Men’s 2, 2
Golf, Women’s 2, 2
Gymnastics, Men’s 3, 2
Gymnastics, Women’s 3, 2
Ice Hockey, Men’s 3, 2
Ice Hockey, Women’s 3, 2
Lacrosse, Men’s 3, 2

[WuShock16]

11.7.4.3 Off-Campus Recruiting—At Any One Time.

The bolded part is the key, folks. They can all recruit off-campus...just not all at the same time. If TB and BK are out recruiting, then BW cannot be recruiting that day. The next day, the two assistants could be out, and TB is not recruiting. There are some exceptions as to whether he has to be back on campus or just out on the road but not doing any off-campus recruiting. It's just saying that they cannot all be recruiting at the same time. There will not be one coach who will not ever recruit.

[Ricardo del Rio]

The bolded part is the key, folks. They can all recruit off-campus...just not all at the same time. If TB and BK are out recruiting, then BW cannot be recruiting that day. The next day, the two assistants could be out, and TB is not recruiting. There are some exceptions as to whether he has to be back on campus or just out on the road but not doing any off-campus recruiting. It's just saying that they cannot all be recruiting at the same time. There will not be one coach who will not ever recruit.

Are the rules administered as you have stated above?

If so, it is a plus for Shocker baseball.

The rule does seen hokey, but surely it is supported by some logic.

[WuShock16]

Look at the list of sports. You'll see that men's basketball gets four coaches and three off-campus recruiters. I'm sure we would all agree that all of the coaches recruit, so that must give proof to the limit of off-campus recruiters being defined as how many can be out at one time, not that one coach is not allowed to recruit ever.