Who Replaces Gene?

[1972Shocker]

Dang. All this baseball talk has me wanting to go watch 'em play!

But now we gotta waaaaaaait.

One way or the other next October's Shocker FWS may be one of the more interesting in some time.

[SHOCKvalue]

Dang. All this baseball talk has me wanting to go watch 'em play!

But now we gotta waaaaaaait.

Really?

Baseball talk including Hooper or Heefner makes me want to hit up the Eck. Baseball talk including Butler makes me want to painfully file WSU baseball into the "what once was" category.

[William]

did the coach at Dallas Baptist really just turn us down?

[William]

this is embarrassing, we are going to end up with Hooper, the only man who will take the job.

[SHOCKvalue]

did the coach at Dallas Baptist really just turn us down?

Not that hard to understand if so. He can already live comfortably on his DBU salary, has a fairly nice new little stadium, and he apparently has common ground with regards to his faith as it relates to his employer and program.

[Ta town]

I imagine an offer will be extended very soon if Butler's interview went well.

If it went poorly, everyone needs to get excited for Hooper or Standiford because the non-alum candidates fall off a cliff pretty sharply. Unless someone new has expressed interest in the last day or two.

I would prefer Hooper or Standiford over Butler

[GoShockers89]

I would prefer Hooper or Standiford over Butler

I'd be alright with that too. Butler, with Hooper/Standiford as hitting coach, is also appealing to me but I have no idea if that combination is practical.

[Ta town]

I'd be alright with that too. Butler, with Hooper/Standiford as hitting coach, is also appealing to me but I have no idea if that combination is practical.

You want the guy who has proven to not be a successful head coach but a successful assistant to be the head coach and the guys who are proven head coaches be the assistants?

[1972Shocker]

did the coach at Dallas Baptist really just turn us down?

Maybe. Although we are not 100% sure a formal offer was made. But at a minimum he appears to have withdrawn his name from consideration after an interview and I would thing at least a general discussion of what the pay package would be.

[DaShox]

Why did you leave out his 90-83 record a head coach? Thats the position you are pimping him for, correct? I don't mind assistants but not sure what's so special about this guy. Is it really hard to recruit top level baseball talent to the SEC? Cause outside of recruiting top level talent to the top baseball conference I don't see anything to write home about.

In 2001, Butler took over as head coach at McNeese State in his hometown of
Lake Charles, La., where he compiled a 90-83 (.520) overall record in three seasons. In
his last season at McNeese, he guided the Cowboys to the 2003 Southland Conference
Tournament championship, their first in 10 years.

The win at the conference tournament secured just the fourth NCAA Regional
bid in McNeese State’s history and the Cowboys were sent to the Houston Regional at
Rice’s Reckling Park. Butler’s team gave eventual national champion Rice all they could
handle before falling to the Owls, 3-2, in 10 innings. Ole Miss eliminated the Cowboys
from the 64-team field the following day.

Prior to assuming the head coaching duties at McNeese State, Butler served as an assistant coach at Blinn Junior College in Brenham, Texas, in 1992, where he helped the Buccaneers advance to the NJCAA World Series.

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Hoopah or Butler, I'm happy.

[GoShockers89]

You want the guy who has proven to not be a successful head coach but a successful assistant to be the head coach and the guys who are proven head coaches be the assistants?

I think saying he was not a successful head coach may be harsh, he just wasn't doing amazing things during his 3 years at McNeese from 2001-03. Their RPI those three years improved from 135 to 100 to 71 with an automatic bid in his last year. Nothing mindblowing but not bad either considering they're not a powerhouse or anything. Since then he's been one of the nation's most talked about assistants for quite a while and can recruit very well. I don't discount success in the SEC as quickly as others on here because it has also been a talented coaches graveyard recently- it's not easy to win against the best teams in the country.

That said, his hitters' performance at Arkansas does not excite me. He would need a very capable hitting coach here.

I was jazzed to hire Heefner. I'd be alright with Butler, and I'd also be alright with Hoop or Standiford. None of the three have had a chance to be the head hauncho at a place with our resources, so I think they're all a roll of the dice to a large degree. I think we'll just have to trust ADES and BK's judgment on it because none of them are miles ahead of the others on paper.

[Ta town]

I think saying he was not a successful head coach may be harsh, he just wasn't doing amazing things during his 3 years at McNeese from 2001-03. Their RPI those three years improved from 135 to 100 to 71 with an automatic bid in his last year. Nothing mindblowing but not bad either considering they're not a powerhouse or anything. Since then he's been one of the nation's most talked about assistants for quite a while and can recruit very well. I don't discount success in the SEC as quickly as others on here because it has also been a talented coaches graveyard recently- it's not easy to win against the best teams in the country.

That said, his hitters' performance at Arkansas does not excite me. He would need a very capable hitting coach here.

I was jazzed to hire Heefner. I'd be alright with Butler, and I'd also be alright with Hoop or Standiford. None of the three have had a chance to be the head hauncho at a place with our resources, so I think they're all a roll of the dice to a large degree. I think we'll just have to trust ADES and BK's judgment on it because none of them are miles ahead of the others on paper.

I was more than fine with Heefner, infact didn't understand why some seemed so against it.

To me if your going to settle for Butler I would prefer they just go with someone like Hooper or Standiford.

[Kung Wu]

Mike Hargrove.

* Currently an advisor for the Cleveland Indians
* Cleveland Indians manager 1991-1999
* Baltimore Orioles manager 2000-2003
* Seattle Mariners manager 2005-2007
* Managed Liberal Beejays (2007-2009)
* Played for Liberal (1972)
* Family in Liberal
* Played college ball at Northwestern Oklahahoma State
* Knows the midwest and has the scouts to recruit the hell out of it.
* Knows Brent, appeases the boosters & ex-players, huge fund-raiser, ability to stand alongside Gene's shadow & not in it
* Big time hire (isn't that what BK said last night?)

He fits all the criteria & BK knows everybody. Don't be surprised if Hargrove gets a call.

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/da...o-manage-again

Has this lead been chased down?

[DaShox]

"Stub" Standiford won't be the head man. As a first base/hitting coach, I would pick him in a heartbeat.

[Ricardo del Rio]

Correct.

If you have the purchasing power that $400K brings, you either live on the east side with people of similar income, or you live below your means on the west side. The disparity of housing volume between east and west in the upper-end market segment is massive.

+Status....if one is interested.